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TomV
11-13-2009, 12:07 AM
G'day Rip,

Here are a few of my lifts done about 2 weeks ago. I appreciate any advice or critiques offered.

Squats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQFfW7Wm0k

Deadlifts & Press:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv1R3nHajXQ

Thanks mate.

Mark Rippetoe
11-13-2009, 08:03 PM
Boys, I can't keep making the same fucking comments on these videos week after week and REMAIN SANE. Read the fucking comments on the other videos, compare yours to theirs, and make the corrections.

Xak
11-14-2009, 01:26 PM
Having read SS a few times, most of the posts on this board, and watched all the form check videos, I'd like to take a shot at this (my first post):

Squat: shows the standard mistake of knees sliding forward at the bottom. Some butt wink, but I don't think it's too much.

Deadlift: When you set up over the bar, your ass drops too far, forcing your shins into the bar, and rolling the bar forward. This positions the bar under your shoulders instead of under the scapula, and forward of the mid-foot, causing the bar path to be non-vertical as it travel back towards your body after it leaves the floor. You'll also notice that on most reps, the ass comes up quite a bit before the bar leaves the floor, a product of having your ass too low in the first place.

Press: I thought this was actually pretty good. Bar path is mostly vertical on the way up on most reps, though further in front of the face on the way down than it needs to be.

Did I get this right? I'm trying to test my eye as I'm helping a friend get started on SS.

sushi362
11-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Are you even doing the program?

skinny99
11-15-2009, 09:53 PM
Have you watched this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA

TomV
11-16-2009, 04:19 AM
Fair call Rip, my apologies for being a lazy shit. I've watched it and think I need to fix up my tail tuck at the bottom, maybe a little more repth and also probably get a bit better hip drive. I don't think my knees slide forward at the bottom really.


Are you even doing the program?

How is this relevant? What do you mean "the program"? Starting Strength? In that case, no.


Have you watched this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA

I had actually mate but appeared to have forgotten it, it seems. Thanks for the reminder.

LudwigVan
11-16-2009, 03:14 PM
Squat: shows the standard mistake of knees sliding forward at the bottom. Some butt wink, but I don't think it's too much.

I don't really see knees forward at the bottom. What I see is head pointed forward instead of down, and driving up with the chest instead of the hips.

Xak
11-16-2009, 10:54 PM
I don't really see knees forward at the bottom. What I see is head pointed forward instead of down, and driving up with the chest instead of the hips.

Watch his video, pause with the rep 1/2 way down, or even further. Cover his knee with your finger, piece of paper, or anything. Hold it there, play the video, and watch as his knees travel forward another 1-3" (depending on the rep, and how well I can judge inches from a video on the internet) from there to the point where he bounces. Of the first set, rep 3 has it the worst. Not every rep is bad, a couple don't have it at all, but i'd say 3 out of 5 have it.

Am I misunderstanding something about knees sliding forward? Is that not what is meant by the phrase?

jeremyfirth
11-17-2009, 07:58 AM
OP: this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yha2XAc2qu8&feature=channel) should enlighten you. I used to have the same problem with my hamstrings disengaging at the bottom of the squat, which is what I see in your vids, and the video I linked to above really fixed the problem for me.