good mornings to a stronger back

[msingh]

i've read my bill starr and i know how important it is to do good mornings. but i've also read my rippetoe and i know you're not supposed to do both deadlifts and goodmornings because together they would be too taxing.

Soo has someone managed to work out a happy medium to program gm's into their novice program? I don't do hyper extensions etc because i lack the equipment to do so, and i've had lower back problems so i'm looking to make it stronger and more resistant to injury.

[Paul Sousa]

I assume by 'novice program' you mean SS? If that's the case I would be hesitant to add GMs into your program. Yor lower back is worked every workout and adding GMs would be too much in my estimation.

However, although I am still a novice I have been doing 5/3/1 for just over a month and am using GMs as an accessory lift. I feel like they have done alot for my deadlift. I pulled 270 for 11 reps on my max rep set today (and would have had more if my grip wasn't gone) and then did 5 sets of 12 DMs with 75 lbs. for one of my accessory lifts.

[PMDL]

It's not a novice routine, but my current cycle has me pulling one day, then doing power cleans + GMs the second day.

I agree w/ the above, you probably don't need it at that stage, though I was just reading some Starr articles that indicated otherwise. He suggested doing 5x8 and keeping the load light-ish, doing them on the "light" workout of the week and alternating them with stiff-leg DLs (at least in the article I just read).

[stef]

msingh, this is the off-topic forum.

So you are fucking up here.

jhmfc

[Dastardly]

But Starr programming doesnt include deadlifts from what ive seen floating about the net.

Only pulling is powercleans, high pulls or shrugs. Which allows hyperextensions to fill the gap as a more intensive lower back strengthener.

[JLascek]

Eh.

[stef]

Dastardly and JLascek, you are not helping keep this off-topic.

FAIL!

[JLascek]

Me slow.

[George Noble]

I think I lost weight over the holiday. FML.

[PMDL]

But Starr programming doesnt include deadlifts from what ive seen floating about the net.

Only pulling is powercleans, high pulls or shrugs. Which allows hyperextensions to fill the gap as a more intensive lower back strengthener.

Depends on the program. I've seen plenty of his stuff with deadlifts in it. It's just the generic programs that get passed online that don't seem to have much deadlifting.

[stef]

Bad monkey!!!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!bad monkey!

[msingh]

msingh, this is the off-topic forum.

So you are fucking up here.

jhmfc

Yes but if i am posting stuff that is offtopic on the offtopic board, then by definition it is offtopic so permissible to be posted here. In other words the empty set is a subset of the empty set. Kidding. I've promised not to post on the other board because people dislike my posts and threads so i've made this my new home.

Justin thankyou. I've deadlifted 130kg for 5 in the past (and was only able to manage 1 deadlift workout per week), and am currently deadlifting 117.5kg. My deadlifting frequency for this month is pretty high (7 workouts) - to bring me to a total of about 135kg at the end of the month. After that i'll go back to doing 1 deadlift wo per week. Is there any room for good mornings then?

[stef]

Wrong, because off-topic is defined by a standard.

Post training shit in the training discussion. Not here.

[George Noble]

Your solution to people not liking you was to irritate them on a different section of the same forum? Didn't it occur to you to have an overhaul of your personality?

[Gary Gibson]

Your solution to people not liking you was to irritate them on a different section of the same forum? Didn't it occur to you to have an overhaul of your personality?

I get this a lot myself. My solution has to keep my personality as it is and shun all real human contact.

Working pretty well so far.

[stef]

I think you're okay, Gary. At least you don't eat paint chips.

[msingh]

Wrong, because off-topic is defined by a standard.

Post training shit in the training discussion. Not here.

makes no sense but ok. in what what is is it objectionable what offtopic things are discussed where? in any case, the other board is just full of people posting me too videos on form checks every two seconds, so most of them dont even belong there

[msingh]

actually stef go make yourself useful and create a form check board

[stef]

Paint chips.

[stronger]

Come on guys...

if we argue like this, the terrorists win.

[msingh]

lol, ok let's make a deal my man. you take off the 'lead paint' thing, and i'll stop posting on this board. or change paint to pussy or something hard like that

[Sgsolberg]

Msingh, I thought you were gone. You promised.

<in his best Caboose voice>...You lied to me...

[msingh]

hey man, i'm staying off "strength training discussion" as promised

[msingh]

who the fuck eat paint?? what kind of thing is that to say about someone? there are far better solvents to ingest..

[Sgsolberg]

who the fuck eat paint?? what kind of thing is that to say about someone? there are far better solvents to ingest..

Paint isn't a solvent. The reference is to kids eating lead paint chips, and then suffering the mental retardation that often accompanies this.

BTW, paint in solid form is mostly resin/epoxy/eurethane and pigments (mineral content for color). Solvent is only in the paint while it is liquid/curing.

[msingh]

Paint isnt a solvent but some paints (many, most?) contain some amount of it. so how do you know so much about paint?

[Sgsolberg]

Solvent is what dissolves something. Water is a solvent for latex paints. Hell, saliva is a pretty good solvent for a lot of stuff... that's why we can taste so well.

As for how I know about paint, I used to run an exterior painting business until about 2 years ago.

[msingh]

Solvent is what dissolves something. Water is a solvent for latex paints. Hell, saliva is a pretty good solvent for a lot of stuff... that's why we can taste so well.

As for how I know about paint, I used to run an exterior painting business until about 2 years ago.

interesting. did you enjoy it? did you ever consider doing interior too?

[Sgsolberg]

I hated it. Every goddamned minute of it.

Nah, it was alright. There were good times, and good folks... and shitty times with lousy folks. I painted anything I could get paid to paint, so interior wasn't a big deal (though AC during the summer sure is nice - gave that to my best crews as a treat).

Listen to this, though, if you ever run your own business: make sure to find time for your sanity first and foremost.

[JLascek]

Watch out for the banana plane.

[Mr.City]

Holy Shit at that tag. I'm crying here.

[Sami]

I think you're okay, Gary. At least you don't eat paint chips.

I need a cool line under my name.

[Jamie J. Skibicki]

This raises a few questions.

How does eating paint chips affect training adaptations from GM?

If we accept that there is "retard strength" and eating paint chips makes you retarded, will eating paint chips make you stronger? Or would the decrease in intelligence lead you do something silly like 25 TGU for time?

Is there ever a good monkey?

What kind of shit storm would you get if you had fed a monkey a diet of paint chips, had him train the GM and taught him set theory?

[misspelledgeoff]

Msingh WOD

Complete as many rounds in 20 minutes as you can of:

-Eat 20g paint chips
-Create shit-stirring thread
-Create shit-stirring thread in wrong forum
-Skip squats

Post IQ to comments

[gman]

I need a cool line under my name.

Be careful what you wish for Sami.

[statesboroga_keith]

This raises a few questions.

How does eating paint chips affect training adaptations from GM?

If we accept that there is "retard strength" and eating paint chips makes you retarded, will eating paint chips make you stronger? Or would the decrease in intelligence lead you do something silly like 25 TGU for time?

Is there ever a good monkey?

What kind of shit storm would you get if you had fed a monkey a diet of paint chips, had him train the GM and taught him set theory?

Those, my frieind, are tough questions. The only things I can answer with certainty is:

1. If paint chips create "retard strength" then one would pull 500# (1-1-1-1-1-1-1) and do a WOD of 25 TGU for time.

2. There are no good monkeys, unless said monkey is being spanked by his hot girlfriend.

[George Noble]

1. If paint chips create "retard strength" then one would pull 500# (1-1-1-1-1-1-1) and do a WOD of 25 TGU for time.

So paint chips aren't as good for creating retard strength as gin then? Because I've heard of people doing 750 lb. deadlifts (1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1) and a WOD of weighted two handed one handed pullups.

[JAM]

So paint chips aren't as good for creating retard strength as gin then? Because I've heard of people doing 750 lb. deadlifts (1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1) and a WOD of weighted two handed one handed pullups.

I'm crying here at work. That's the funniest shit I've read in a long time.

[statesboroga_keith]

So paint chips aren't as good for creating retard strength as gin then? Because I've heard of people doing 750 lb. deadlifts (1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1) and a WOD of weighted two handed one handed pullups.

Good sir, I think you are referring to Level 1 retard strength. Yes, for $1,000 you too can find the secret of paint chips and gin to pull 750, AND perform two handed one handed weighted pullups.

[Sgsolberg]

You don't understand. Gin is a prerequisite for elite programming... It's like doing squats. As for lead paint, it's like friggin steroids to those retards.


.... oh no... You don't suppose Msingh is really the Couch here to poison our community. He heard we used real bars to learn how to lift and was perplexed that our novices could powerclean without PVC pipes.

[Paul Sousa]

This thread really is becoming the poor man's IGX. Maybe we can become one of their starter sites for those hoping to join their ranks.

[nisora33]

This thread really is becoming the poor man's IGX. Maybe we can become one of their starter sites for those hoping to join their ranks.

Yeah, it actually crossed my mind that msingh might be a troll from IGX, but then I realized that, no, their trolling would be MUCH better. Sorry IGX'ers, didn't mean to insult you guys.

-Stacey

[Sgsolberg]

Stacey, shame on you.

You don't apologize to IGXers, you say F-you!

[PMDL]

IGx wouldn't have any reason to troll here.

[George Noble]

IGx wouldn't have any reason to troll here.
Nobody has any reason to troll anywhere.

[nisora33]

IGx wouldn't have any reason to troll here.

This is true, no overzealous xfit faggotry here:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2761/4254081983_b2e696104c_o.jpg



**EDIT**
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2772/4254863252_0a819fc12a_o.png

[George Noble]

Those aren't tattoos...

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs034.snc3/12145_321343470415_541885415_9508641_7749734_n.jpg

[misspelledgeoff]

less crossfaggotry...more coozefit

[Mr.City]

Nice job on the Crossfit mantrain.

[Sami]

I'm still gonna need a cool line under my name. Stef, can I have,

"I wish I was still in Texas"

?

[nisora33]

I'm still gonna need a cool line under my name. Stef, can I have,

"I wish I was still in Texas"

?

If you get one, then everyone will want one.


And because geoff asked:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2782/4255049676_7b1513c12a_o.jpg

-S.

[Sami]

If you get one, then everyone will want one.

-S.

Not everyone is from Texas though.

[JCavin]

If you get one, then everyone will want one.


And because geoff asked:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2782/4255049676_7b1513c12a_o.jpg

-S.

Is that Stef?

Holy crap dude...

I mean...good lord...almighty...in heaven...the best shaped...i've ever seen...

I think I need to move back to Texas. :eek:

[nisora33]

Is that Stef?

Holy crap dude...

I mean...good lord...almighty...in heaven...the best shaped...i've ever seen...

I think I need to move back to Texas. :eek:

I think you probably just earned yourself a "cool line" over Sami.

But no, that's not stef.

[JCavin]

Well, it is still amazing. Simply amazing.

[Smack]

But no, that's not stef.

Stef is female, right? (You never know with this board as I discovered.)

[msingh]

you people are mean spirited

[pauld]

you people are mean spirited

What do you mean, "you people"?

[msingh]

What do you mean, "you people"?

that's another thing, guys here seem to be under the delusion that they're funny, sorry to tell you guys, you aint..

[Sgsolberg]

Mean spirited? -Nah, not us. Google "Irongarm the couch thread" and read that. That's some serious stuff... way worse than us.

Don't get all butt-hurt over this crap. If you can't, go to crossfit's boards. They welcome people like you, who can only lift pvc pipes. Hell, they'll call you elite.

[gman]

Those aren't tattoos...

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs034.snc3/12145_321343470415_541885415_9508641_7749734_n.jpg


Now you know we need an explanation.....and don't give me the "monkey on my back" deal (yes I know it's a gorilla)

[George Noble]

Am I the only one who is too inflexible to be able to do much of anything with a PVC pipe? I can't clean it, can't squat it, and nobody can get their feet under it to deadlift it. Benching is non-functional, so I'm left with sumo deadlift high pulls. Time to start on the paint chips I guess.

[George Noble]

Now you know we need an explanation.....and don't give me the "monkey on my back" deal (yes I know it's a gorilla)
That's... uh... not me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvNBuKERjdY

[Sami]

That's... uh... not me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvNBuKERjdY

Were you at that pull? If not, where was it?

[George Noble]

Yes. So was Bebbs. It was in or very near Windsor. Can't remember exactly.

[Sami]

Yes. So was Bebbs. It was in or very near Windsor. Can't remember exactly.

Let me know the next time you guys come down South. I'm like 30 minutes from Windsor.

[George Noble]

Next competition is down south somewhere. http://www.wamdsad.co.uk/

[Smack]

Let me know the next time you guys come down South. I'm like 30 minutes from Windsor.

I'm like 6 hours from Windsor. :D

[Sami]

Next competition is down south somewhere. http://www.wamdsad.co.uk/

Those are geared competitions. Not interested.

[George Noble]

I'm like 6 hours from Windsor. :D
Have polar bears moved into your garden yet?

[Smack]

Have polar bears moved into your garden yet?

They're all dead because of global warming.

[George Noble]

It's a bitch (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/6947586/Snow-covers-Britain-from-head-to-toe.html).

[misspelledgeoff]

you're obviously not elite then


Am I the only one who is too inflexible to be able to do much of anything with a PVC pipe? I can't clean it, can't squat it, and nobody can get their feet under it to deadlift it. Benching is non-functional, so I'm left with sumo deadlift high pulls. Time to start on the paint chips I guess.

[nisora33]

Into which broad time and modal domains does eating paint chips fall?

-S.

[Sgsolberg]

...If you come to me with tales that you have eatten pounds of lead paint chips, I know, already, some very serious limitations to your fitness... If you come to me with ability to pound a liter of gin in 4 minutes I am suspicious of your total capacities... but if you tell me about eating a few hands full of lead paint, and with a twinkle in your eye, I hear about a half liter in a half hour... then I know we have a serious monster on our hands.

(For those of you who have missed out on the joke: http://crossfitlondonuk.com/2009/12/23/crossfit-according-to-greg-glassman/)

[Force Production]

msingh, come back to the Training Discussion, please. This thread could have been an interesting read, really stupid of you to post it here.

[JCavin]

If you get one, then everyone will want one.


And because geoff asked:


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2782/4255049676_7b1513c12a_o.jpg

-S.


I don't care about Msingh. I just want to talk about this.

[nisora33]

I don't care about Msingh. I just want to talk about this.

Yes, let's do:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4256935681_1bb6700ff4_o.jpg

[OMG]

I would rather look at dezzz!

[JCavin]

Dezz? Who is she?

What the crap Nisora? Where are you getting these pictures?

[tdwaffle15]

Mean spirited? -Nah, not us. Google "Irongarm the couch thread" and read that. That's some serious stuff... way worse than us.

Don't get all butt-hurt over this crap. If you can't, go to crossfit's boards. They welcome people like you, who can only lift pvc pipes. Hell, they'll call you elite.

LOL.

@OMG I disagree

[StLRPh]

I can't believe that I missed this thread.

As far as the comments about everyone not being funny...I laughed out loud a few times reading this.:D

BTW feel free to post more pictures of hot cro$$fit chicks.

[PVC]

Hot, AND motivational.

http://coupdetodd.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/squat.jpg

[Sami]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3548/3347100987_062fd74da3.jpg

[Mr.City]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/MrCity/1262287308946-1.jpg

[Craig B.]

I get this a lot myself. My solution has to keep my personality as it is and shun all real human contact.

Working pretty well so far.

"You can't take rejection personally. You have to say, "Well, that dumbass just didn't know any better." -- Jimmy Dean, Sausage King

[nisora33]

Dezz? Who is she?

What the crap Nisora? Where are you getting these pictures?

One more pic of her:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4257296585_29cac9fbb2_o.jpg

Her shit's diesel, brah.

[Gary Gibson]

One more pic of her:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4257296585_29cac9fbb2_o.jpg

Her shit's diesel, brah.

There's not a one of you I wouldn't kill if she asked me to.

[OMG]

http://www.crossfitnyc.org/allisonrun.jpg

[OMG]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7wv_cOo-jZ0/SKoOcjVkWwI/AAAAAAAAAAM/k8Ik7FHenvU/S220/Photo+257.jpg

[OMG]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7wv_cOo-jZ0/SbENhr6IHiI/AAAAAAAAALY/1USh2pPEF3Y/s400/n1512039182_224034_564540.jpg

[OMG]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7wv_cOo-jZ0/Swr8QXn3Q1I/AAAAAAAAAP8/25uHlBrmk9I/s1600/IMG_0184.JPG

[GVA-66]

Fuck, this really is turning into IGx light.

Now here is my kinda cleanse (no baby, take the pants off):

[StLRPh]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7wv_cOo-jZ0/Swr8QXn3Q1I/AAAAAAAAAP8/25uHlBrmk9I/s1600/IMG_0184.JPG

I'm pretty sure that the chick on the left is getting her ass out.

[George Noble]

Fuck, this really is turning into IGx light.

Now here is my kinda cleanse (no baby, take the pants off):
What the fuck are you talking about, Willis?

[gman]

Fuck, this really is turning into IGx light.

Now here is my kinda cleanse (no baby, take the pants off):


????

[JCavin]

S'ok guys. She's a she. Not a he.

[misspelledgeoff]

Fuck, this really is turning into IGx light.

Now here is my kinda cleanse (no baby, take the pants off):

testosterone restoration in 3....2...1....


http://www.snoridgecrossfit.com/.a/6a0115705a348d970b0120a77b235e970b-800wi


http://www.snoridgecrossfit.com/.a/6a0115705a348d970b0120a6a40c3b970b-800wi

http://www.snoridgecrossfit.com/.a/6a0115705a348d970b0120a60b29de970c-800wi



http://www.crossfitdirtysouth.com/.a/6a0105367934d2970b01156f7c857d970b-800wi

[Raskolnikov]

I <3 crossfit

[GVA-66]

S'ok guys. She's a she. Not a he.

Thanks, J. They had me double checking.


testosterone restoration in 3....2...1....



DAMN YOU, Misspelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This ain't over. I'll be back....

[misspelledgeoff]

lulz! Hey GVA, if you must post man-candy, can you at least post the 70's big variety?

e.g.,

http://70sbig.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/pizz_bench_pull.JPG




DAMN YOU, Misspelled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This ain't over. I'll be back....

[nisora33]

Cannot overstate the importance of exercising the posterior chain:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4260389090_e891b4f871_o.jpg

[PVC]

http://www.snoridgecrossfit.com/.a/6a0115705a348d970b0120a6a40c3b970b-800wi

This girl's got a beautiful snatch.

(Never gets old)

[JCavin]

Please, Baby Jesus, please let someone open a Crossfit gym in this area.

[StLRPh]

Please, Baby Jesus, please let someone open a Crossfit gym in this area.

..with big windows in the front that only has fit women for members???

[JCavin]

..with big windows in the front that only has fit women for members???

You know it.

I will even join it and show up every day for 5 o'clock workouts if people like this are going to be there.

[misspelledgeoff]

hmmm, makes me think I should join my local box. maybe I'll post some pic's from their website and let you guys make the call?


You know it.

I will even join it and show up every day for 5 o'clock workouts if people like this are going to be there.

[misspelledgeoff]

Crossfit Dallas...not bad....
http://www.dallascrossfit.com/files/gallery/wod/DSC_0814.JPG

http://www.dallascrossfit.com/files/gallery/wod/Kelly%20Handstand_0.jpg

http://www.dallascrossfit.com/files/gallery/wod/IMG_0056.JPG

[StLRPh]

I'd follow that stream of back sweat anywhere

[GVA-66]

lulz! Hey GVA, if you must post man-candy, can you at least post the 70's big variety?

Ok, but I gotta warn you, John Holmes is my idea of 70's big.

Furthermore, while that picture you posted was impressive, it is not what I'd call attractive.

And what is with the guy on the bench staring at the crotch of the guy lifting?

[misspelledgeoff]

lol! I think that everytime I see that pic. It reminds me of the doctor that would give our whole football team a "physical" before the season started. Basically you dropped your drawers in front of his face and you passed.





Ok, but I gotta warn you, John Holmes is my idea of 70's big.

Furthermore, while that picture you posted was impressive, it is not what I'd call attractive.

And what is with the guy on the bench staring at the crotch of the guy lifting?

[nisora33]

Tah-dow! Bitches don't know 'bout my mad pastin' skills!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4003/4261538240_bdafcb52f9_b.jpg