Drinking Whiskey

[elVarouza]

First, forgive my ignorance. I am naught but 20yrs old and haven't had much experience with decent liquors.

So I'm just wondering how whiskey is meant to be drink. I'm a fan of bourbon and rye whiskey, not so much irish. When it is acceptable to be shooting it and when should it be drank on rocks? I've never enjoyed mixing it with coke or anything similar. Is there ever a time when it would be considered appropriate to shoot a good whiskey?

[nisora33]

First, forgive my ignorance. I am naught but 20yrs old and haven't had much experience with decent liquors.

So I'm just wondering how whiskey is meant to be drink. I'm a fan of bourbon and rye whiskey, not so much irish. When it is acceptable to be shooting it and when should it be drank on rocks? I've never enjoyed mixing it with coke or anything similar. Is there ever a time when it would be considered appropriate to shoot a good whiskey?

If it is generic, "well" whiskey (READ: George Dickel et al.), shoot away. If it is somthing like Buffalo Trace, Woodford Reserve, Bulleit Bourbon, add a dash of water and enjoy is my preference. Wearing a cowboy hat and firing guns into the woods off your back porch while you sip it = Priceless.

-Stacey

[killyouintheface]

If it is generic, low-priced whiskey, shoot away. If it is somthing like Buffalo Trace, Woodford Reserve, Bulleit Bourbon, add a dash of water and enjoy is my preference. Wearing a cowboy hat and firing guns into the woods off your back porch while you sip it = Priceless.

-Stacey

Unless it's Irish Whiskey, in which case you should probably stomp around drunkenly and swing a shillelagh around and break shit.

[gzt]

whiskey should be sipped, not shot. It has flavor. A little bit of water may, especially for whiskeys that are higher than 80 proof, but only a little bit of water, help bring out the flavor. Or a little bit of ice. Keep in mind, of course, that we're referring to decent whiskeys. you can do whatever you want with jack daniels or what-have-you.

[gzt]

in fact, in general, decent liquor is meant to be drunk straight. just so you know. the only variations are temperature and whether to add a little water. mixed drinks are generally to mask the flavor of inferior cheap booze, with very few exceptions.

[killyouintheface]

whiskey should be sipped, not shot. It has flavor. A little bit of water may, especially for whiskeys that are higher than 80 proof, but only a little bit of water, help bring out the flavor. Or a little bit of ice. Keep in mind, of course, that we're referring to decent whiskeys. you can do whatever you want with jack daniels or what-have-you.

But I like Gentleman Jack.

[nisora33]

Unless it's Irish Whiskey, in which case you should probably stomp around drunkenly and swing a shillelagh around and break shit.

Yes, of course. Pardon my negligence. Christ, I wish I wasn't out of bourbon right now.

[nisora33]

But I like Gentleman Jack.

He meant Old No. 7 not Gentleman, I think.

-S.

[killyouintheface]

Yes, of course. Pardon my negligence. Christ, I wish I wasn't out of bourbon right now.

Well…same difference, you know?


He meant Old No. 7 not Gentleman, I think.

-S.

The green label is real swill. Good only for mixing.

I do like a jack and coke once in a great while, though.

[kittenSmash]

No reason to knock ol' No.7, hell I'll drink it like water. And Single Barrell is mighty nice. Just remember though, don't put shit with your whiskey. Just a little water, or an ice cube or two. If you don't like it, then you obviously don't like the glorious flavor of whiskey.

[Kincain]

very important: don't put any ice in it!

[william jackson]

very important: don't put any ice in it!

2 hollow cubes in 6oz of Walker and im a happy man. regardless of what other people think

whiskey shelved at room temp or a little cooler (not refrigerated)

[Sgsolberg]

For all wiskeys, I always return back to drinking it straight with about 2-3 drops of water splashed in. Just enough to open the nose, not enough to significantly change the drink. Remember, whiskey is a gift from the gods.


Oh, and ice will cool the liquor until it starts to mute the flavors... Shame on you, Kitten and William.

[IWillLiveFreeOrDie]

My father-in-law was mixing my Jefferson's with club soda. I said to him, "You know that doesn't come in a plastic bottle right?" :D

[PMDL]

Just get a bottle of Old Granddad and choke it down however it goes.

[elVarouza]

I picked up a fifth of some cheap rye whiskey the other day (Jim Beam rye). It's very interesting, as I hadn't had rye before. I ended up drinking it on rocks but near the end it got very watered down. I'll have to give the few drops of water a shot. Unfortunately my limited college student budget doesn't allow for too much.

[william jackson]

For all wiskeys, I always return back to drinking it straight with about 2-3 drops of water splashed in. Just enough to open the nose, not enough to significantly change the drink. Remember, whiskey is a gift from the gods.


Oh, and ice will cool the liquor until it starts to mute the flavors... Shame on you, Kitten and William.

let the liquor change the water not the water change the liquor. thats what i always say

[loseyourname]

I used to drink it with an ice cube or two sometimes but it will get watered down at some point if you put much more than that in it. I've found that using a straw to add drops of water until you get the perfect taste is the best way now. It'll vary by a drop or two for different whiskeys. Bushmill's 1608 has to be my personal favorite right now, but I don't think they made much of it, so it isn't easy to find. I first had it when I invited a whiskey master to come to my bar to teach the bartenders about whiskey.

On a side note, that guy probably had the best job a human can have.

[kfreeman]

You know... a lot of scotch drinkers say you can drink scotch:

Neat

With water

With Ice and Water

and there will be no problem as far as they're concerned. This is coming from the single malts club, and a lot of other single malt fans as well. Personally... I have scotches I like with water, with water and ice, and neat. My personal preferences are as follows:

Glenlevit gets ice and water always... I find it sharp
Talisker I drink with a bit of ice or neat if it's the 12 year old and neat if it's distillers edition
Caol ila I enjoy neat or with ice
Balvenie Double Wood I like with ice
Glenmorangie Quinta Ruban is good with ice
Glenmorangie 18 yo I like neat
Glenrothes with ice and water

I like Islay scotches most of all... campfire in a glass... Which is why I drink them neat or with a bit of water. Again, Talisker distillers edition is, by far, my favorite of favorites, but I've yet to find an Islay I didn't like (although snooty people say Talisker isn't an Islay... I don't really care). I've yet to have either Lagavulin or Laphroaig, both of which are high on my list to try.

[astanto2]

I drink scotch neat. I drink bourbon a number of different ways, but rarely neat, unless it's a super quality bourbon (e.g., Stagg).

I love a good Manhattan on the rocks -- but prefer it to be less sweet than typical, i.e., lots of bourbon, splash of sweet vermouth, two dashes of bitters and I add a splash of club soda. excellent drink.

I think a "big tent" bourbon philosophy is in order -- welcome in all those who enjoy it, regardless of whether they add water, add ice, drink it neat, shoot it, snort it, etc.

[kunnar]

For me it is best to drink whiskey straight. Without ice, water or anything else. I like Irish whiskey.

[hbriem]

I mostly drink single malt, neat. I'll drink generic blended scotch or bourbon with an ice cube sometimes. I also like dark rum on the rocks.

[nisora33]

I've got to heavily endorse Bulleit bourbon. My brother-in-law, Jameson, and I shared a bottle over holiday, and it's a very, very decent bourbon at a very decent price. I'm working on a bottle right now. Just a few drops of water and you're good to go.

http://www.bulleitbourbon.com/Legend.aspx



While transporting barrels of his bourbon from Kentucky to New Orleans, Augustus Bulleit vanished. What happened to him is still unknown, and his creation could have passed into history as well. But after more than a century, in 1987, his great-great -grandson Tom Bulleit stepped in. A lawyer by profession, Tom's lifelong dream had been to revive the family’s bourbon legacy, started more than 150 years ago.


-S.

[kittenSmash]

I'm about to pour a glass of Jack's Single Barrell. No water/ice. I was going to have a growler that I picked up from my favorite local brewery, but this thread made my mouth water. Whiskey it is tonight.

(p.s. a buddy was about to take shots of this last night. I made him appologize, then leave)

[IWillLiveFreeOrDie]

Bulliet is next on my list. I just picked up a bottle of Elijah Craig 18 year old. It tastes more like a Scotch than a bourbon in my opinion.

I love Manhattans, but that is what Makers Mark is for!

[nisora33]

Okay, I just got SMASHED on Bulleit tonight, while watching Inglourious Basterds, so I'll let you know how bad it is to come down from this shit tomorrow morning. I'm pretty fuckin' drunk, so this should be pretty interesting!!!!!

-S.

[kittenSmash]

Nisora, I am impressed by your drunk posting skills, I can actually understand you. Far better than I can do when drinking.

[astanto2]

Bulliet is next on my list. I just picked up a bottle of Elijah Craig 18 year old. It tastes more like a Scotch than a bourbon in my opinion.

I love Manhattans, but that is what Makers Mark is for!

Agreed. Buffalo Trace is actually very budget friendly as well. And of course, if Manhattans are being made, don't forget about the granddad.

[nisora33]

Nisora, I am impressed by your drunk posting skills, I can actually understand you. Far better than I can do when drinking.

I think it took me, like, 10 minutes to type out that post last night. I was really determined for some reason....

...Okay, I slept in, and I don't feel so bad today, but I'm having post-drinking shits like a motherfucker. Nothing a little greasy food won't fix (or worsen). And for some reason, I'm in the mood for some Natzee killin'...

-S.

[khal]

What actually causes a hangover?

As a poor 19 year old I'm of the school of thought that says buy the cheapest spirits you can and mix it with cola or drink copious amounts of snakebite, yet I've never been hungover.

What gives?

[ZKP]

Just get a bottle of Old Granddad and choke it down however it goes.

This will also cure a head cold....

[jameson]

What actually causes a hangover?

As a poor 19 year old I'm of the school of thought that says buy the cheapest spirits you can and mix it with cola or drink copious amounts of snakebite, yet I've never been hungover.

What gives?

Try this:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+causes+a+hangover%3F

[jameson]

If we're talkin' whiskey, and not Bourbon, then Irish is the way to go. Bushmills is a favorite. Jameson, perhaps??? A lot of American whiskeys are too...nutty, I guess? If it ain't a bourbon, I personally stick with Gentleman Jack or....good ol' shine.


Anyone tried Wild Turkey~Rare Breed? Barrel proof yet still actually has some taste to it.

[nisora33]

If we're talkin' whiskey, and not Bourbon, then Irish is the way to go. Bushmills is a favorite. Jameson, perhaps??? A lot of American whiskeys are too...nutty, I guess? If it ain't a bourbon, I personally stick with Gentleman Jack or....good ol' shine.


Anyone tried Wild Turkey~Rare Breed? Barrel proof yet still actually has some taste to it.


I used it to strip the varnish off of a chest of drawers. I'd highly recommend it.

-S.

[Chewie_jrc]

Just get a bottle of Old Granddad and choke it down however it goes.

Amen! Don't forget the fine art of Old Granddad's straight out of the bottle! Goes well as a pre-bar warmup, or bumming it all weekend on the beach in Santa Cruz, or post-workout refreshment!

[vmarwin]

Anyone tried Wild Turkey~Rare Breed? Barrel proof yet still actually has some taste to it.

Rare Breed is good, my favorite of the Wild Turkey Variety. Personally I prefer to tone down the proof for casual sipping, I'm a huge fan of Woodford Reserve for this purpose.

The 101 variety is always fun to bring to a party in order to convince 90s small guys to join you for a shot.

[Dastardly]

What actually causes a hangover?

As a poor 19 year old I'm of the school of thought that says buy the cheapest spirits you can and mix it with cola or drink copious amounts of snakebite, yet I've never been hungover.

What gives?

Hang over is merely a sign of mild alcohol poisoning. I felt like death for a full week post new years.

This can be attributed to cycling through every form of heavy spirit, finishing with a large cupful of absinthe. Combined with the fact find it impossible to puke.

Puke= cleanse.

[Bloodninja666]

Didn't read this thread, but I'd like to plug Buffalo Trace as the best Whiskey under $25 period.

[Mr.City]

Rare Breed is good, my favorite of the Wild Turkey Variety. Personally I prefer to tone down the proof for casual sipping, I'm a huge fan of Woodford Reserve for this purpose.

The 101 variety is always fun to bring to a party in order to convince 90s small guys to join you for a shot.

The 90s small guys at my dorm don't even like the 101 blend. Hell, they can't even deal with some Maker's Mark, an incredibly smooth whiskey.

[cjangelo]

Yes, I know bourbon ain't Whiskey. But still, this is a great read.

http://philalawyer.net/2009/07/bourbon/


Scotch will make you charming, vodka’s liquid Percocet, and beer a fount of oafish non-sequiturs and flatulence. Red wine will put you to bed, white’s piss, and tequila’s vomit fuel. But bourbon, well, bourbon is the cocaine of alcohol, amplifying every aggressive angle of your personality and dragging all the rotten suppressed thoughts to the surface. Your judgment isn’t compromised – it’s bloodied with brass knuckles, curbed and left on a sewer grate for dead. You’ve nothing but a mindful of terrible ideas – equal parts dumb, dangerous and malicious – and twice the energy you need to act on every single one of them. Simply, concisely, a bourbon drunk’s what you’d be in the jungle. And it’s simple fact to anyone who knows the stuff – you’re more who you are on bourbon than you’ll ever appear sober. Bourbon is liberation, but only for those willing to embrace their inner baboon.
Happy Hour is for Amateurs, pp. 198-199.

[jameson]

Yes, I know bourbon ain't Whiskey. But still, this is a great read.

Just to clear things up, all bourbons are whiskey. Just not all whiskeys are bourbon. (Yes, this is an important subject to me.) :)

[vmarwin]

The 90s small guys at my dorm don't even like the 101 blend. Hell, they can't even deal with some Maker's Mark, an incredibly smooth whiskey.

Agreed, BUT if you call them out and offer it (especially in front of females) its usually pretty hilarious when they shriek like little girls at the burn and taste.

True story, my fiance is not a "drinker" but in situations like this she has been known to rip a shot of turkey then drop and "push 'em out".

Stone Cold.

[Mr.City]

Girls don't like it either. It's nothing but piss water beer and cheap liquor mixed with coke/oj/ whatever to kill the taste. There's no appreciation for the fancy things.

[IWillLiveFreeOrDie]

From ShitMyDadSays:

I'm having a Makers Mark, you want one? What? 7Up? I ain't mixing fucking Makers with 7Up. Might as well put a lil' fucking umbrella in it!

:D :D :D

[drlvegas]

From ShitMyDadSays:

I'm having a Makers Mark, you want one? What? 7Up? I ain't mixing fucking Makers with 7Up. Might as well put a lil' fucking umbrella in it!

:D :D :D

Makes a great old-fashioned, though.

[jameson]

I've got to heavily endorse Bulleit bourbon. My brother-in-law, Jameson, and I shared a bottle over holiday, and it's a very, very decent bourbon at a very decent price. I'm working on a bottle right now. Just a few drops of water and you're good to go.

This one's going in the family album...

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/jamesoncp/035.jpg

[Mark Rippetoe]

Didn't read this thread, but I'd like to plug Buffalo Trace as the best Whiskey under $25 period.

Here's a little secret: Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond 100 proof is better than the admittedly very good Buffalo Trace, and is less than $20. Ridiculous.

[jameson]

Here's a little secret: Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond 100 proof is better than the admittedly very good Buffalo Trace, and is less than $20. Ridiculous.

I'll bet you just insured Rittenhouse will meet their 1st quarter profit with that post. You should really try Bulleit (rye blend) bourbon if you've never had it. Around the same price.

[drlvegas]

You should PhotoShop that 1800 bottle out of the background. Even though it's much more full than the Bulleit, some may question your credibility.

[nisora33]

I'll bet you just insured Rittenhouse will meet their 1st quarter profit with that post. You should really try Bulleit (rye blend) bourbon if you've never had it. Around the same price.

And with that pic of me you probably just ensured that Builleit will NOT meet their quarterly profit. Christ, that's an unflattering pic.

[vmarwin]

Here's a little secret: Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond 100 proof is better than the admittedly very good Buffalo Trace, and is less than $20. Ridiculous.

Its not under $25 but Pappy Van Winkle makes the best rye I've ever had.

[jameson]

You should PhotoShop that 1800 bottle out of the background. Even though it's much more full than the Bulleit, some may question your credibility.

I can't remember if Nisora and I ever touched the 1800; it was someone else's. We stuck to the bourbon and Highland Oatmeal Porter.

[DustyMillar]

Ok boys and girls time to sort this out.
there are only two types of whisky SCOTCH or IRISH.
sorry but anything else is merely a cheep imitation at worse a separate entity at best. I don't mean to be rude, lets look at the history, whisky has been made in Scotland and Ireland for at least 900 years
whiskey made its way to the Americas via the first Irish immigrants in the form of POITIN what you guys in USA call moonshine! Incidentally the majority of these were ULSTER SCOTS. Peoples of Irish scotch decent who still to this day call Co. Antrim,N Ireland home.
Co. Antrim,N Ireland Is home to The Old Bushmills Distillery.
The Old Bushmills Distillery is the world’s oldest licensed whiskey distillery having received its licence to distil in 1608. In 1608 Sir Thomas
Phillips was granted a licence to distil whiskey by James 1 of England, however, mentions of distilling traditions in the surrounding environs date back to 1276. Its said King James came to hear of Bushmills whisky due to so many of his solders " enjoying it whilst deployed ".
I learned of this history partly because I live appox 12 miles from Bushmills and have done most of my life. SECONDLY is there a whiskey lover who being so close to Bushmills wouldn't take one of the tours available.

Ok to the point YES IT IS OK TO MIX WHISKY but only in set environments i.e. when it would be unseemly to get drunk. Personally I mix it with ginger ale Canada dry or similar. water is acceptable as is ice, NEVER COKE!

Now for the purposes of tasting or enjoying Whisky it should never be mixed with anything other than a single ice cube. If your ice melts enough to water down the taste you obviously don't like whisky enough to drink it!

Bushmills Original, Black Bush or Jamesons are my blends

for Scotch I like Bells, Famous Grouse or Glenfiddich over 12yrs

[jameson]

Dusty,

We spell it with an "e" in the states so it's OK. While in (southern) Ireland, I looked for poitin but couldn't find it. Perhaps I didn't look hard enough.

EDIT: And Famous Grouse is decent, eh? I'd heard that all the old Scottish guys swear by it...I guess I'll have to try it.

[Gwynn]

Single malt, Islay (Laphroig or Lagavulin), or Highland (Dalwhinnie), but not Speyside.
Seconded on the rye.
I blush to admit this, but the other night I tried a Highland singe malt that Trader Joe's put their label on. Why? I'm a little poor right now. It was $19.
It wasn't bad.

No more than a couple of drops of water. If you're drinking just to get drunk, which is the only reason you'd mix it with shit like soda pop, drink cheap vodka. You won't get a hangover.

[nisora33]

Going to look for the Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond that Rip recommended tonight. Got a hankerin' for some whiskey, woo-hoo!

-S.

[jameson]

Going to look for the Rittenhouse Rye Bottled-in-Bond that Rip recommended tonight. Got a hankerin' for some whiskey, woo-hoo!

-S.

Uh, yeah...I did the same thing the other day. And guess what. The distributor is out of stock as are all the shops 'round here. Looks like it'll be Famous Grouse for me.

[Gwynn]

Agreed, BUT if you call them out and offer it (especially in front of females) its usually pretty hilarious when they shriek like little girls at the burn and taste.

True story, my fiance is not a "drinker" but in situations like this she has been known to rip a shot of turkey then drop and "push 'em out".

Stone Cold.

Off topic -
There's a tequila bar in town that makes habenero tequila. I downed the shot and silenced the bar.
But none of the impressed patrons saw me the next day, as the results of said shot were expunged...

[nisora33]

Uh, yeah...I did the same thing the other day. And guess what. The distributor is out of stock as are all the shops 'round here. Looks like it'll be Famous Grouse for me.

Well, shitballs...

[jameson]

Off topic -
There's a tequila bar in town that makes habenero tequila. I downed the shot and silenced the bar.
But none of the impressed patrons saw me the next day, as the results of said shot were expunged...

So that we don't get off topic, perhaps someone should start a "watch this" thread discussing shots taken and the aftermath...could be fun with this crowd.

[jameson]

Well, shitballs...

Precisely. Maybe it's different across the river...try calling around. Then bring some with you when you visit down here.

[nisora33]

Precisely. Maybe it's different across the river...try calling around. Then bring some with you when you visit down here.


If they have any, I'll buy two.

-S.

[hbriem]

I'm sipping a lovely dram of 12yo Balvenie Doublewood as I read this. Unfortunately there's not much left of the bottle.

[DustyMillar]

Dusty,

We spell it with an "e" in the states so it's OK. While in (southern) Ireland, I looked for poitin but couldn't find it. Perhaps I didn't look hard enough.

EDIT: And Famous Grouse is decent, eh? I'd heard that all the old Scottish guys swear by it...I guess I'll have to try it.

Grouse is beeutifull only problem is before you know it half the bottle's gone,,just seems to go.
I'm sorry you didn't get any Poitin (said potyin ) when you were in the south, sad to say its still against the law. But in all honesty had you asked in any bar some of the old fellas would have been able to help you.
Its like trying to find Ganja in Jamaica.

[jameson]

Grouse is beeutifull only problem is before you know it half the bottle's gone,,just seems to go.
I'm sorry you didn't get any Poitin (said potyin ) when you were in the south, sad to say its still against the law. But in all honesty had you asked in any bar some of the old fellas would have been able to help you.
Its like trying to find Ganja in Jamaica.

Ah, for some reason I went over there thinking it had been legalized. We did get in with a good bartender...should've said something. He was very familiar with Tennesse, my state, and it being known for country music. Very funny to hear him try to imitate our accent...almost as bad as me trying imitate his. Ah, good times, good times, indeed.

[DustyMillar]

Your quite welcome to come to Ireland and come up the north I normally have a bottle laying around.
If you think your liver can take it?

[nisora33]

Ah, for some reason I went over there thinking it had been legalized. We did get in with a good bartender...should've said something. He was very familiar with Tennesse, my state, and it being known for country music. Very funny to hear him try to imitate our accent...almost as bad as me trying imitate his. Ah, good times, good times, indeed.

Fucker, I will never forgive you for not taking me with you: you were doing that while I was in Mexico contracting an intestinal parasite.

[nisora33]

Your quite welcome to come to Ireland and come up the north I normally have a bottle laying around.

Hey Dusty, what's the lifting scene like up your way? Do the Irish like to throw around heavy objects as much as the next guy? Could a guy easily find a place to hunker down and lift there?

[jameson]

Favorite thread ever...


Your quite welcome to come to Ireland and come up the north I normally have a bottle laying around.
If you think your liver can take it?

Dunno...being from moonshine country, I just might. Irish descent, too FWIW. Donegal.


Fucker, I will never forgive you for not taking me with you: you were doing that while I was in Mexico contracting an intestinal parasite.

Ay, TEQUILA!!!

[DustyMillar]

Yea a real big iron scene here a lot strongmen like Glen Ross from Banger only 40 miles from here. but some serious power lifters like Sammy Graham world champ a hand full of times

[DustyMillar]

Favorite thread ever...



Dunno...being from moonshine country, I just might. Irish descent, too FWIW. Donegal!

hell thats half an hour away everything real close here not like the states you can drive the length of the island of Ireland in a day

[jameson]

Yea a real big iron scene here a lot strongmen like Glen Ross from Banger only 40 miles from here. but some serious power lifters like Sammy Graham world champ a hand full of times

I plan to go back...it was the BIG trip my wife and I wanted to take before starting a family - she's pregnant with our first now. Anyway, we went from Shannon, to Galway, to Dingle, to Kilkenny, to Dublin. Ironically, that's also the order of greatest to least. I loved Galway but didn't really care for Dublin. Northern Ireland would be the next go-round.

EDIT: and we'll see if you can go too nisora.

[DustyMillar]

I plan to go back...it was the BIG trip my wife and I wanted to take before starting a family - she's pregnant with our first now. Anyway, we went from Shannon, to Galway, to Dingle, to Kilkenny, to Dublin. Ironically, that's also the order of greatest to least. I loved Galway but didn't really care for Dublin. Northern Ireland would be the next go-round.

EDIT: and we'll see if you can go too nisora.

Dublin's a horrible city but its good you got to Dingle and Galway two very lovley places did you swim with the wild dolphin in dingle bay?

[DustyMillar]

all the best with weein and all the best to your wife If you do make the trip to the north it wouldn't be wasted.
sorry weein means baby or child.

[jameson]

Dublin's a horrible city but its good you got to Dingle and Galway two very lovley places did you swim with the wild dolphin in dingle bay?

Nah, Fungi was nowhere in sight. That's where we met the friendly bartender though...wanna say it was called the Dingle Pub. Did the ring of Dingle and Kerry.

[DustyMillar]

Nah, Fungi was nowhere in sight. That's where we met the friendly bartender though...wanna say it was called the Dingle Pub. Did the ring of Dingle and Kerry.

did you go to Kilarnie and kiss the Balarnie stone? just to get the gift of the Gab you understand

[jameson]

did you go to Kilarnie and kiss the Balarnie stone? just to get the gift of the Gab you understand

We went, but I wasn't putting my mouth anywhere near that thing. All the Poitin in the world couldn't disinfect that thing (or perhaps, I underestimate the potency). But seriously, there was an old Polish guy slobbering all over it ahead of me so I declined.

[jameson]

all the best with weein and all the best to your wife If you do make the trip to the north it wouldn't be wasted.
sorry weein means baby or child.

We've been looking for a nickname for the baby...think I just found it. Thanks!

[DustyMillar]

We went, but I wasn't putting my mouth anywhere near that thing. All the Poitin in the world couldn't disinfect that thing (or perhaps, I underestimate the potency). But seriously, there was an old Polish guy slobbering all over it ahead of me so I declined.

I would like to tell you didn't miss anything but that wouldn't be right.
after kissing it I managed to convince a friend that no one was allowed to kiss it any more,due to risk of HIV infection, my how we laughed.

[DustyMillar]

We've been looking for a nickname for the baby...think I just found it. Thanks!

you say it "weyin" as one word

[jameson]

I would like to tell you didn't miss anything but that wouldn't be right.
after kissing it I managed to convince a friend that no one was allowed to kiss it any more,due to risk of HIV infection, my how we laughed.

NICE. hehe. Well, I hate to derail the thread any further. I'll just quote the last guy who added something relevant...


I'm sipping a lovely dram of 12yo Balvenie Doublewood as I read this. Unfortunately there's not much left of the bottle.

[Chewie_jrc]

I know mixing anything (other than water/ice) with whiskey is frowned upon but how else are you supposed to drink at work? Can I get a free pass for mixing it in with my coffee? Takes the edge off 2+ hr conference calls.

[jameson]

I know mixing anything (other than water/ice) with whiskey is frowned upon but how else are you supposed to drink at work? Can I get a free pass for mixing it in with my coffee? Takes the edge off 2+ hr conference calls.

Frequent bathroom breaks and a flask.

[DustyMillar]

when drinking whisky I tend to wash each one down with a pint of Guinness but when I was in the states people thought I had a problem, where here in Ireland its the done thing. when you guys are drinking whisky is it only whisky?

[jameson]

when drinking whisky I tend to wash each one down with a pint of Guinness but when I was in the states people thought I had a problem, where here in Ireland its the done thing. when you guys are drinking whisky is it only whisky?

Usually just by itself. If not mixed, I've known guys to have a coke on the side. HOWEVER, I think I'm going for the whiskey&guinness tonight. See, people, the Irish are just full of good ideas.

[DustyMillar]

Usually just by itself. If not mixed, I've known guys to have a coke on the side. HOWEVER, I think I'm going for the whiskey&guinness tonight. See, people, the Irish are just full of good ideas.

Just as a note of interest some of the oule boys I know drink a glass of water between whiskeys they say it takes care of the hangover!

[jameson]

Just as a note of interest some of the oule boys I know drink a glass of water between whiskeys they say it takes care of the hangover!

"oule boys?" Not familiar with the term.

[DustyMillar]

"oule boys?" Not familiar with the term.

sorry I tend to use Ulster Scott words some times oule means old as in
"OLD BOYS" old men in the bar.

[jameson]

sorry I tend to use Ulster Scott words some times oule means old as in
"OLD BOYS" old men in the bar.

Cool. Learn something new everyday. guinness&whiskey, oule...

The lady at the B&B in Galway asked if we had any weein's so I'd heard that one. Oh, by the way, the Aran Islands are amazing. Very cool place.

[Rorschach]

People rate Famous Grouse? Blended crap IMO. :P

Cheap, and one of the better blended whiskies I'll give you, but I'm still not a fan.

[Mr.City]

when drinking whisky I tend to wash each one down with a pint of Guinness but when I was in the states people thought I had a problem, where here in Ireland its the done thing. when you guys are drinking whisky is it only whisky?

I have to give this a try.

[kittenSmash]

I know mixing anything (other than water/ice) with whiskey is frowned upon but how else are you supposed to drink at work? Can I get a free pass for mixing it in with my coffee? Takes the edge off 2+ hr conference calls.

Holy shit I'm jealous of your job. I have to set up CNC machines and give advice at mine, alcohol makes it a little too interesting and/or dangerous.
I personally love making some strong, freedom press coffee and mixing it 1:1 with something like Jack. I pretty much have to start my Friday nights off with that just to make it past 10.

[jameson]

So....I'm pretty sure my head is going to explode with this new knowledge. Why has no one told me of Rogue Dead Guy Whiskey???

Are there any other brewers that have distilleries, too?

[Ian Kovtunovich]

So....I'm pretty sure my head is going to explode with this new knowledge. Why has no one told me of Rogue Dead Guy Whiskey???

Are there any other brewers that have distilleries, too?

Is it any good? I actually live here in Portland, home of Rogue Brewery, and haven't tried it. I think their beers have gone downhill in the last 10 years or so, so I'm concerned that the quality of their spirits might not be up there.

In answer to your question, I believe Anchor makes a whiskey; a rye, maybe?

There's also a craft distiller out there, French-sounding name--chi-something?--who starts his whiskey from an IPA. Sounds interesting, although the guy had some sort of out-there ideas about whiskey-making, which, while innovative, didn't really appeal to me. Seemed to be really anti-oak, like all it did was cover up and ruin the flavor of the spirit, as if the maturation was just some incidental aspect of whiskeymaking that just happened to impart a bunch of flavor in the finished product.

I'm sure breweries doing whiskey will become more common. Craft distilling seems to be taking off, and apparently, cooking up wort is pretty much the same thing as making the mash for whiskey, so the brewers have a real head start if they can nail the distilling side.

[Rorschach]

I read that as a Kraft distiller. Broke out in a cold sweat.

[Rorschach]

Oh, and if anyone gets the chance, I heartily recommend Innes and Gunn.
Ale brewed in whisky casks, gives it a lovely rich flavour.
It's fairly available over here in Britland, not sure if they export to less civilised places.

[tnumrych]

Oh, and if anyone gets the chance, I heartily recommend Innes and Gunn.
Ale brewed in whisky casks, gives it a lovely rich flavour.
It's fairly available over here in Britland, not sure if they export to less civilised places.

According to their website and Mr. Google they do, unfortunately nowhere near this fucking Commonwealth of Massadouchebags which I inhabit.

[jameson]

Is it any good? I actually live here in Portland, home of Rogue Brewery, and haven't tried it. I think their beers have gone downhill in the last 10 years or so, so I'm concerned that the quality of their spirits might not be up there.

In answer to your question, I believe Anchor makes a whiskey; a rye, maybe?

There's also a craft distiller out there, French-sounding name--chi-something?--who starts his whiskey from an IPA. Sounds interesting, although the guy had some sort of out-there ideas about whiskey-making, which, while innovative, didn't really appeal to me. Seemed to be really anti-oak, like all it did was cover up and ruin the flavor of the spirit, as if the maturation was just some incidental aspect of whiskeymaking that just happened to impart a bunch of flavor in the finished product.

I'm sure breweries doing whiskey will become more common. Craft distilling seems to be taking off, and apparently, cooking up wort is pretty much the same thing as making the mash for whiskey, so the brewers have a real head start if they can nail the distilling side.

I haven't had it. I refuse to pay $40 unless I'm certain it's worth it. Perhaps, if I ever see it by the glass somewhere... I do like Rogue beer though I'm not familiar with anything older than say 7 or 8 years ago.

[jameson]

Oh, and if anyone gets the chance, I heartily recommend Innes and Gunn.
Ale brewed in whisky casks, gives it a lovely rich flavour.
It's fairly available over here in Britland, not sure if they export to less civilised places.

In the States, Jefferson Reserve Bourbon Barrel Stout is decent. Not sure where else it's sold. High gravity beer.

[gzt]

Anchor's stuff is good. Unconventional old-fashioned rye. They have two different styles. It's worth it. It's meant to be had with a bit of water (more than just a couple drops). It's like 120 proof and you should dilute it past 100, probably to 80, so you're getting the functional equivalent of more than a bottle. See if you can wrangle a sample first, because it's not for everybody given its unique flavor.

I don't find their gin worthwhile.

[Ian Kovtunovich]

Good info on Anchor there gzt. I've never even seen it in the liquor store here in Oregon. Wonder how widely available it is?

And on the subject of whiskeyed beers:
Full Sail Top Sail Imperial Porter (aged in bourbon barrels) is tasty, and 9.8% ABV.

BrewDog out of Scotland makes a couple of beers aged in ex-scotch casks; the Islay IPA was a bit much, but the Speyside Stout was quite good. I think they should have done it the other way 'round, personally, but they are iconoclasts.

If anyone happens to wind up in Truckee, CA, there is a brewery there (I think they have a number for their name, but I'll be damned if I can remember it) that has a Jack Daniel's cask-aged imperial stout, and it is superb. Far better than I would have expected from an otherwise so-so brewery.

Bridgeport here in Portland bottles a "Highland Ambush Scotch Ale" that is I think 33% bourbon barrel aged; given that BP's output is usually exemplary, I thought this stuff was pretty ho-hum.

Seems that last time I was at Whole Foods (AKA "Whole Paycheck"), I saw several 22oz bottles of bourbon barrel-aged beers. I want them all!

[Ian Kovtunovich]

I read that as a Kraft distiller. Broke out in a cold sweat.

Oh yes, their new Squeez Whiskee is great. I keep a tube in my gym bag and put it on crackers between sets. You get used to the artificial oak flavor after awhile.

[Ian Kovtunovich]

I haven't had it. I refuse to pay $40 unless I'm certain it's worth it. Perhaps, if I ever see it by the glass somewhere... I do like Rogue beer though I'm not familiar with anything older than say 7 or 8 years ago.


Yeah, that's a high price to pay for something that might suck.

I don't think their beers are really bad now, per se, but I think they are fairly average, although they do put out some unique brews, which is nice. I just think there are other micros out there that do it better, for my money.

[jameson]

Yeah, that's a high price to pay for something that might suck.

I don't think their beers are really bad now, per se, but I think they are fairly average, although they do put out some unique brews, which is nice. I just think there are other micros out there that do it better, for my money.

Hehe. Yeah, I've posted heavily on the beer thread about some of the ones I like better than Rogue. I'd hate to derail this thread any further with beer...given that I like (Irish) whiskey (and Bourbon) so much and all.