View Full Version : Is my food even being digested? WARNING (bowel related content inside)
Dastardly
02-18-2010, 08:12 PM
I have noticed, that whenever I drink more than 1 pint of milk in a day. In about 3.5 hours after I get projectile liquid diarrhea which also seems to expel whatever meals I had in that time, which look very undigested.
As soon as I drink the milk I can hear it swirling down trough my digestive system, it is loud like plumbing. No matter how much I drink, none of the fluid ends up in my bladder. It all works itself into the intestine. Which eventually requires me to let it all out. Anything else which happened to also be in the system also departs without finishing digestion.
I have been drinking about about 2 pints of milk during most workouts recently, and I really think it helps DURING the training. But I am starting to feel it may be robbing me of more dietary goodness than it is providing.
I looked in the pharmacist for lactase pills but they dont have any, the few supplement retailers in the UK charge a fortune. If I am to get some I shall have to order from the USA. I feel odd about ordering medication online!
But my main question is, if you get violent diarrhea, does any of the nutrients from all the food you ate even get to enter your system?
BruteForce
02-18-2010, 08:24 PM
I have noticed, that whenever I drink more than 1 pint of milk in a day. In about 3.5 hours after I get projectile liquid diarrhea which also seems to expel whatever meals I had in that time, which look very undigested.
As soon as I drink the milk I can hear it swirling down trough my digestive system, it is loud like plumbing. No matter how much I drink, none of the fluid ends up in my bladder. It all works itself into the intestine. Which eventually requires me to let it all out. Anything else which happened to also be in the system also departs without finishing digestion.
I have been drinking about about 2 pints of milk during most workouts recently, and I really think it helps DURING the training. But I am starting to feel it may be robbing me of more dietary goodness than it is providing.
I looked in the pharmacist for lactase pills but they dont have any, the few supplement retailers in the UK charge a fortune. If I am to get some I shall have to order from the USA. I feel odd about ordering medication online!
But my main question is, if you get violent diarrhea, does any of the nutrients from all the food you ate even get to enter your system?
My wife is lactose intolerant. That is exactly to a T what happens to her when she drinks milk. You may not have previously been lactose intolerant but perhaps you have developed a food allergy to lactose due to excessive dairy intake? I'm certainly no expert but that is what it sounds like to me.
Gary Gibson
02-18-2010, 10:35 PM
I used to go through the same thing and wonder if I was wasting my time or making things worse with all that milk. In fact, a few years back I tried GOMAD and ended up with bloating, cramps and headache so bad that I wanted to die.
Now I can drink over a gallon of whole milk per day with no ill effect except having to pee a lot and taking a few more dumps per day. The milk is apparently working as I gained over 20 lbs in a month and am still at the top of the next weight class up even after cutting for a meet.
Point is that over time my body adjusted. I think there's a lot to be said for gradually increasing milk intake over a few weeks. Maybe waving back every few days to give the body time to adjust, just like with weights.
coreJack
02-18-2010, 11:10 PM
For a long time after I began living on my own, I drank very little, if any, milk. After some time, drinking a pint would definitely upset my stomach, and send me to the bathroom. When I started training, I reintroduced the milk slowly, and have only upset my stomach once, when I tried to drink a quart within about 30min. But other than that, I can drink 1/4 - 1/3 gallon a day without any issues; could probably do more, but never tried. Usually drink about a pint while training with no ill effects.
LondonTiger
02-19-2010, 01:10 PM
as far as I can rememebr I was never lactose intolerant, could drink a glass or so of milk, used to fart.. but I thought it was normal.
I read that lactose is a difficult carb for human stomachs to digest, so everyone has a few issues with drinking milk.
However when I started drinking +1L of milk I started getting stomach problems.
I switched to lactofree, milk which has processed lactose which is easier for the stomach to digest, so I no longer have these problems.. It tastes just like normal milk.
homerj742
02-19-2010, 01:26 PM
I had a similar problem at the beginning.
Acidophilus/Probiotics and Psyllium Husk powder helped me.
But after awhile I didn't need them.
rjg91680
02-19-2010, 02:00 PM
I've been lactose intolerant for most of my adult life, but dived into GOMAD when I started training. I took a lactase pill everytime I drank milk, and it seemed to work pretty well.
Last week, though, even with the lactase pill I've been suffering pretty badly from problems with digestion. I ended up buying lactase-free milk and that has been working well. Too bad that is is twice as expensive. I'm not doing GOMAD anymore (maybe 1/4 GOMAD) so that's not much of an issue.
But my main question is, if you get violent diarrhea, does any of the nutrients from all the food you ate even get to enter your system?
Not much. I've seen a multivitamin floating around after a particularly violent episode. It didn't look very digested, and this was 6 hours after I took it.
strengthstarter
02-19-2010, 03:04 PM
taking a few more dumps per day.
So is that like a dump every 4 hours? Damn.
hamster
02-19-2010, 03:21 PM
I've been lactose intolerant for most of my adult life, but dived into GOMAD when I started training. I took a lactase pill everytime I drank milk, and it seemed to work pretty well.
Last week, though, even with the lactase pill I've been suffering pretty badly from problems with digestion. I ended up buying lactase-free milk and that has been working well. Too bad that is is twice as expensive. I'm not doing GOMAD anymore (maybe 1/4 GOMAD) so that's not much of an issue.
Not much. I've seen a multivitamin floating around after a particularly violent episode. It didn't look very digested, and this was 6 hours after I took it.
Here's a money-saver for you. The manufacturers use lactase to make lactose-free milk, so you can just make it for yourself by grinding up a lactase pill, pouring it into your milk carton, shaking it up and letting it sit at room temperature for an hour or two. You will have to experiment with how long to leave it out, because enzymes work faster at warmer temperatures (except generally above 60 degrees celcius, when they start to break down).
texron
02-21-2010, 01:13 PM
I've been lactose intolerant for most of my adult life, but dived into GOMAD when I started training. I took a lactase pill everytime I drank milk, and it seemed to work pretty well.
Last week, though, even with the lactase pill I've been suffering pretty badly from problems with digestion. I ended up buying lactase-free milk and that has been working well. Too bad that is is twice as expensive. I'm not doing GOMAD anymore (maybe 1/4 GOMAD) so that's not much of an issue.
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This is me^^^ The pills USED to work for me as well, then one day..well it wasn't pretty. Pills never worked again. The Lactaid milk is great, but $5.50/gallon sucks
hamster
02-21-2010, 02:48 PM
This is me^^^ The pills USED to work for me as well, then one day..well it wasn't pretty. Pills never worked again. The Lactaid milk is great, but $5.50/gallon sucks
see my post above. you don't need to buy lactaid milk. you can make it yourself by adding lactase to the milk and letting it sit to allow the enzyme to work.
texron
02-21-2010, 02:52 PM
see my post above. you don't need to buy lactaid milk. you can make it yourself by adding lactase to the milk and letting it sit to allow the enzyme to work.
tried, failed. Let the milk sit maybe 1-1/2 hours? The resulting explosions were ugly
hamster
02-22-2010, 09:29 AM
tried, failed. Let the milk sit maybe 1-1/2 hours? The resulting explosions were ugly
the enzyme just needed more time to work. it kind of works in a diminishing log scale. it will lyse a lot of the lactose (substrate) when there's a lot around, and as time goes by will lyse less and less. you should just leave it out longer and let it get to room temp. try four hours at room temp, then put it in the fridge for a night or two. i swear it works. you can also try popping more tablets in there, but be sure to grind up the tablets first and shake up the milk to mix it in there.
texron
02-23-2010, 08:44 AM
the enzyme just needed more time to work. it kind of works in a diminishing log scale. it will lyse a lot of the lactose (substrate) when there's a lot around, and as time goes by will lyse less and less. you should just leave it out longer and let it get to room temp. try four hours at room temp, then put it in the fridge for a night or two. i swear it works. you can also try popping more tablets in there, but be sure to grind up the tablets first and shake up the milk to mix it in there.
Any problems leaving milk out for 4 hours? I used 5 tablets the first time, how many would you suggest?
GripAU
02-24-2010, 06:25 AM
i usually get light brown, extremely smelly dumps. i mean, my gas is so bad i actually think it could make someone projectile vomit if they were dutch-ovened in it. anway, i find that when you drink so much milk, you also need to increase your fiber intake. i bet you added in GOMAD while keeping 3 meals right? you're drinking more volume than you're eating, so of course you're gonna have the runs. Have at least one serving of fiber with every litre you drink, try that. Worked for me. Big, solid, hard, smelly shits now. LOVE IT! :rolleyes:
Get "Digestive Advantage - Lactose Intolerance", a generic pro-biotic and some fiber pills; your body will become a highly efficient shitting machine if you keep up with all three.
Dastardly
02-24-2010, 09:13 AM
I started taking some psylium husk, but it is having no effect on anything really.
Razor
02-24-2010, 09:57 AM
I used to have a problem with loose stools aka running shit 4xday and went to my Dr. She suggested increasing my fiber intake until said shit became solid. seems to work but if you arent used to that much fiber you will get bloated and have nasty farts....
vmarwin
03-04-2010, 12:01 AM
So is that like a dump every 4 hours? Damn.
I have a very strong gastrocolic reflex. I have no problem digesting milk (my people are nordic/european) but after nearly every meal the bathroom calls. I usually do about 3 dumps/day. Depending on my diet, it may increase.
Guido
03-04-2010, 09:28 AM
I started taking acidophilus chewables about 2 months ago and it has greatly reduced the symptoms of my milk drinking (i.e. gas). I would recommend it.
misspelledgeoff
03-05-2010, 08:58 AM
i can't believe you guys want to get rid of the gas. i love the gas.
hamster
03-07-2010, 01:31 PM
Any problems leaving milk out for 4 hours? I used 5 tablets the first time, how many would you suggest?
I don't know buddy, you'll just have to tweak the amount of lactase you put in there and how long you leave it out.
I don't think leaving it out for a couple of hours will be a problem, especially if (as I presume) you're in the United States drinking pasteurized milk, and said milk very soon after you buy it
You want to know what really helps?
Buy a large bag of frozen mixed vegetables. Fill up a small bowl with them, fill it with water, and microwave it for a few minutes until it's warm. Pour out the excess water and eat everything in the bowl. Do this twice a day.
I am lactose intolerant, and I would have explosive diarrhea 6 or more times a day from trying to drink a gallon of milk (by the way, shitting 3 times a day is absolutely nothing to complain about). Eating two bowls of frozen vegetables every day completely eliminated all problems I was having. My shits became well regulated, non-gaseous, relatively clean and very quick and efficient. When I sat down on that toilet I would be completely finished shitting within about 30 seconds, and wiping took very little time because the "mess" was minimal. Those were, without a doubt, the best shits of my life.
The problem with this method: a bowl of vegetables fills you up, and makes it pretty hard to eat substantial amounts of food. BUT, I still suggest you try it just to see what I'm talking about. Best shits of your life, I swear.
You want to know what really helps?
Buy a large bag of frozen mixed vegetables. Fill up a small bowl with them, fill it with water, and microwave it for a few minutes until it's warm. Pour out the excess water and eat everything in the bowl. Do this twice a day.
This is wise advice, my friends. Veggies are important.
vmarwin
03-07-2010, 06:14 PM
This is wise advice, my friends. Veggies are important.
2nd this. Great Advice for awesome BMs.
hatmanii
03-07-2010, 07:45 PM
I have a very strong gastrocolic reflex. I have no problem digesting milk (my people are nordic/european) but after nearly every meal the bathroom calls. I usually do about 3 dumps/day. Depending on my diet, it may increase.
I think you are my long lost brother. I'm of almost 90% German heritage, and I shit after EVERY meal, usually within 30 mins. I can also drink milk like it's water with no ill effects.
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