Training Log

[tweakxc03]

Here are my workouts so far:

Workout 1: Weight: 185
Found work sets -
Squat 155
Bench 155
Deadlift 185

Workout 2: Weight: 186
Squat 175
Press 75
Clean 90

I went way too light on the clean and press. Before starting this program I was doing 135 for 5x5 for the clean-and-press... although my form wasn't great. Increasing Clean weight to 125 next time and the press to 80 to see where I am.


Workout 3: Weight: 187
Squat 185
Bench 160
Deadlift 205 - I messed up here and did 3 sets of 5 at 205... I am used to doing a 5x5 workout for deadlifts, so I guess I sort of got in the zone? Anyway, on the bright side I got 3 sets of 5 at this weight no problem, so I'll go up to 225 next week.

Chins BW x5, x4, x3. Decided to tack these on to the end of the workout, simply because my lats/biceps aren't getting much work from the deadlifts early on. I've found they recover really quickly, and they're used to taking a beating on pullups, deadlifts, and rows. As the deadlifts get heavy, I will drop them off if need be to allow adequate reovery. Later, I may move more toward the Onus Wunsler-type program.

Anyway, the squats felt really good today. They are just now starting to get a little heavy, so next workout will be 195.

Need to get a video up soon to make sure my squat form is good. don't have a video camera though, so i'll have to bum one from somebody.

Anyway, i'm done lifting till Thursday.

time for milk.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 188

Squats: 195
Press: 85
Clean: 115
Chins: BW x5, x4, x4

The lower back was a little tight today, so I rolled it out on the foam roller before and after the workout to get the facia to loosen up some.

The squats felt good today. Starting to get a little heavy, but I like it. Going up to 205 on Saturday, so that should be interesting. I need to get a vid camera at some point to get my form checked. I think I'm going deep enough, but it's hard to tell. People at the gym say that I am, but i don't trust them, because approximately 80-90% of people are retarded.

The presses felt good. I jumped up 10 pounds in weight rather than 5 this time because i think I started too light at 75. Only going up by 5 pound increments from here on out most likely, so its 90 pounds next.

Bumped up the weight to 115 on cleans to make up for starting way to light the first workout. Form feels good. Probably could have done 125 easily. I'll probably go up to 125 next workout. I feel that I can sustain 10 pound jumps for a maybe week or 2 before backing off to 5# increments.

So far, the workouts haven't been really putting much of a load on my larger back muscles, as my lower back and other supportive muscles have to catch up. So, to get in some assistance work, I've started doing some light chins at the end of each workout. I was doing pullups rather frequently before beginning thsi program. So far, they don't seem to be impacting my recovery.

Once the deadlifts and cleans get heavy, I'll phase them out if it impacts recovery at all.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 188

Squat: 205
Bench: 165
Deadlift: 225
Chins: BW x5, x4, x4

The squats are starting to get heavy, but so far so good. I recorded the vid's today for squat and DL, but technical shit is keeping me from getting it on the computer. I can't tell if I am stopping a little high on the squats. Also can't tell if I'm not getting my knees out enough. I'm seeing a little back rounding at the bottom, but only slightly. The weight felt good.

Bench was fine. Going up to 170 next week.

Deadlifts felt very good. The weight is finally feeling a little heavy, but I can go up to 245 no problem next workout. Form looked pretty solid in the video.

Chins were also pretty easy. I'm going to move up next workout to maybe x6, x4, x4 and hold that for 3 workouts. Doing chins 3x a week seems to be working well. It's not impacting recovery on any of my other lifts at all... only making me stronger.

The only thing I am struggling with is getting in the calories. I've stayed with the initial introduction of 1/2gal per day for GOMAD, but now I need to jack it up to the full gallon a day. I've gone up maybe 3 pounds in weight over the past week and a half, but I can tell I am starting to lean out some, which means my body is going to need more fuel to continue growing without getting stuck.

Diet is going to be the main challenge for this program for sure. I am working so much right now it's difficult to remember to eat throughout the day.

so far, so good.

[PVC]

Nice work, keep it going man. Just wondering, how tall are you?

[tweakxc03]

6'3"...

update to the log... After reviewing my vid's just on the video camera (they didnt' record properly), My knees aren't going out over my toes properly at all. I am thinking about that during the squat, but it looks like they are just going straight forward in the video.

That means I need to reset on the squat and get the form down first, since i'm early in the game. I'll post a video next workout.

[tweakxc03]

Got in the gym again today with the camera. Made some adjustments to the squat and it seems to be working well. I'll post a vid in the technique forum.

Body Weight: 190
Squat: 210
Press: 90
Clean: 125
Chins: BW x5, x4, x4

Presses are starting to get a little heavy. Will need to start taking jumps that are less than 5 pounds soon.... need to get some fractional plates ordered.

The squats are definitely getting heavy... I think I am going to stick with 5 pound jumps for now.

Cleans- still fairly light. gonna go up to 135 next.

Chins are cake. moving up to x6 x4 x4 next workout.

[tweakxc03]

I was supposed to take today off before starting my new week and lift tomorrow, but an infuriatingly retarded girlfriend resulted in my venting heavily at the gym.

Good news - Ended up PRing in both the squat and the deadlift. Bad news is I haven't gained much weight. Still stuck at 190 (5 pound gain). Just need to eat more and keep drinking the milk. I also warmed up on the heavy bag to vent out some extra rage before lifting.

Squat: 215
Bench: 170
Deadlift: 245
Chins: x6 x4 x3

The squats felt really good. I think the form is ok for now.

Deadlifts were pretty heavy. Back may have rounded slightly at the end of the lift.

I was wiped by the time I got to the chinups... being pissed off for 5 or 6 hours really drains you.

Good day though

[tweakxc03]

body weight: 191
Squats: 220
Press: 95
Clean: 135
chins: BWx6 x4 x4

Presses are starting to get heavy. Probably need to drop down to less than 5 pound jumps here shortly.

Cleans felt fine, squats were good.

Going up to 225 for the squat, 260 for the deadlift, 175 for the bench next.

I LOVE every exercize in this program, so I am pumped to work out every time I get into the gym. Good feeling. Still struggling with eating enough to put on serious weight. 6 pounds so far in 2.5 weeks.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 191
Squat: 225
Bench: 175
Deadlift: 265
Chins: BW x6 x4 x4

The squats are getting very heavy. Today I noticed that on some reps my ass tended to shift to the right a little bit on the way down, but I think I managed to correct it. Bar speed was slow on the last set, but i got it done. Heading to 230 on Thursday. My lower back is definitely the weak link right now, but I guess it is that way for everyone.

Bench felt very good. Going to 180 next. I may have started a little light, but this is working well, so I'm not going to fuck with it.

The deadlifts felt GREAT. The warmup felt heavy, but once I adjusted and got warm, the work set was cake. Headed to either 280 or 285 next. Haven't decided on the weight next.

The chins seem to be helping out quite a bit, and I like them in the program so far. The deadlifts and cleans aren't showing any problems from it. Going up to x6x5x4 on Thursday.

Definitely need to start eating a lot more to keep this progress going.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 193

Squat: 230
Press: 100
Clean: 155
Chins: BW x6 x5 x4

Squats are definitely getting heavy. depth was iffy on a few reps today. Still going to stick with 5 pound increments. 235 next. The only thing i am noticing now is that my lower back is having a hard time recovering fully from workout to workout. Not sure how to fix this weak link, or if I even need to.

Press is coming right along. Focusing on really powering through the first half of the press seems to help with bar speed. Going up to 105.

Clean: Accidentally did 155 instead of 145 today.... apparently I can't count. anyway, they actually weren't that heavy. Form is iffy.... submitting a vid to Rip for review. Going up to 165 probably for the next lift. 10 pound jumps are still ok.

chins are cake... i definitely like this as an ongoing component of the program. recovery here doesn't seem to be a factor.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 191

Squats: 230
Bench: 180
Deadlifts: 285
Chins: BW x6 x5 x4

Reattempted 230 to correct depth problems. The issue was that my stance was actually too wide. brought it in some and pointed toes out more, then focused on my knees. That did the trick... great push through a sticking point.

Big new PR on the deadlift. the video shows a little bit of an issue of my butt going up too much, but this is easily fixable. Going up to 305 next.

Need. To. Eat. MORE.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 194

Squat: 235 - accidentally did 6 reps on the first set. lost count.
Press: 105 - struggled on the last rep. Need to drop down to 2.5# jumps
Cleans: 165 - form fucking sucks. Can't get full hip extension for the life of me, regardless of how heavy/light the weight is. not sure what to do to fix it.
Chins: bw x6 x5 x4 - going up to 6-5-5 on thursday.


Fighting a cold right now so I felt a little under the weather, but still managed to pound out the squats, so that's good. on to 240 on Thursday.
Need to make sure i do a lot between now and then to recover as much as possible.

not sure what to do about the cleans. the form just is not good. drills don't seem to help.

anyway, so far so good. weight gain is NOT where it needs to be. gotta get better about food intake.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 196

Squats: 240
Bench: 185
Deadlift: 305
Chins: BW x6 x5 x5

First rep of the deadlift was garbage... off-balance, but i think i was actually surprised at how easily the bar came up. after that they were ok. Still need to work on back angle. Slight back rounding at the end, but good. I think when i get my lifting shoes in, the added stability will help a lot.

Squats were ok... knees need a little bit of work at the bottom I think, but overall they were good, but heavy.

Bench was good. Movin on up to 190 next. Chins were very easy. Might even move up to x7 x5 x5 next workout.

My body weight is finally starting to move again, which is good.... However, all of the weight seems to be in my legs, ass, and lower/middle back. The intensity of the squats and deadlifts is just higher than the press and the bench right now i guess? Not sure what I need to do here, if anything... i probably need to just be patient.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 197

Squat: 245 x 5 x5 x2
Press: 107.5 x5 x4 x4
Clean: lower back fried. Worked on clean pulls, did a few full cleans at 95, 135, then one at 165.
Chins: BW x6 x5 x5

shitty workout.

I don't know what happened, but my lower back was fried before I even finished my warmup on squats. Ended up taking like 5 minutes or so, maybe more, in between sets. Failed after the 2nd rep in set 3.

I'm guessing my lower back was still recovering from the deadlifts and squats on Thursday. Going to do a lot of foam rolling, maybe some icing between now and Monday.

Failed on the last rep of sets 2 and 3 for the press also. The outside of my left elbow started hurting like a bitch on the way down. I've had this before, I guess it's similar to tennis elbow, but I'm not sure exactly what I need to do to keep it from becoming a problem.

The cleans were of course garbage. I did make some progress on getting the hip extension at the top of the clean pull. Definitely need to back the weight way down to 135 or so and perfect my form, then gradually work it back up. I just went up too fast.

Even my chins were struggling a little bit today.... Maybe I'm just starting to slow down in terms of recovery.

definitely need to eat more to support more gains in strength.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 197

Squats: 245, Second Attempt x5, x5, x4
Bench: 190
Deadlifts: 225 x5, 275 x3, x2, major failure
Chins: BW x6 x5 x6


Today was first workout with a belt and my lifting shoes (rips). the squats felt better, but my knees are still caving in on the way up.

Bench felt great.

The deadlifts were total shit. I don't know what happened, but everything just felt awkward. probably will just take some adjusting to get used to the shoes and all that. I more than likely spent more energy on the warmups, as I was focusing on putting the bar back down carefully and setting up properly.

I'm having a tough time with the deadlift setup. 1" from my shin seems different from what would be the middle of the foot for me... anyway, i'm going to have to reassess my form and get this right.

might be time for a reset just for the sake of correcting my squat and deadlift form.

[tweakxc03]

This is Workout 16... Deloaded on Squats, Cleans

Body Weight: 197
Squats: 225
Press: 107.5
Cleans: 135

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 198

Squats: 230
Bench Press: 195
Deadlift: 275

Everything felt lots better today. Shoes feel good, belt feels good. Deadlifts were cake, squat form felt lots better. lower back feels good also.

Amazing what rest and food will do.

update: inside of left petellar tendon is sore today. I think this still indicates my left knee is sliding forward and/or caving in out of the bottom of the squats. Need to work on this and get it fixed before moving up in weight.

[tweakxc03]

Squat: 240
Press: 110
Clean: 145
Chins: BW x7 x6 x5

Squats felt really good today. Low back was burning in between sets, but worked through it just fine.

Press felt a LOT better after making some form adjustments. The video looked very odd, like the bar was uneven, but it could have been from my friend wobbling the camera.

Cleans are getting a little better.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 202

Squat: 245
Bench: 200
Deadlift: 295

squats felt great... good workout today

[tweakxc03]

[WORKOUT 20]

Weight: 202

Squats: 250
Press: 112.5
Clean: 165
Chins: x7 x6 x5

Presses felt much better, squats were cake, cleans are getting there. Great push through the sticking point on squats.

good workout.

[PVC]

Good job man, keep it up.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 202

4/7/10

Squat: 255
Bench: 205
Deadlift: 315

Squats felt good. Need to make some minor form adjustments, but nothing major. Bench was great. Deadlift was quite heavy and my lower back was fried after the squats, but I managed to get in the set.

Need to switch up the program to deadlifting maybe once a week so that my lower back can recover more as the weights get heavier.

Won't lift again until Monday, as I'll be in Chicago for the weekend. Won't have accessibility or time to drink my gallon of milk and get in the calories, so I will probably end up repeating my last weights for the squats.

The 20 pound jumps are still ok for the deadlifts I think. I might back it off to 15 pound jumps, not quite sure yet.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 200

Squat: 250
Press: 115
Clean: 155 - working on correcting form
Chins: BW x 11, x6, x4 (failure sets).

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 200

Squat: 255
Bench: 210
Deadlift: 330

Deadlifts looked better. big pr... still struggling with squat form - keeping chest up and knees out more.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 202

Squat: 260
Press: 117.5 x5 x5 x4
Pullups: BW x12 x6 x2
Practice Cleans @ 95 pounds, 3 sets of 3

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 204

Squats: 265
Bench: 215 x5 x3 x1 - UBERFAIL
Cleans: Doubles in 20 pound jumps - 95, 115, 135... tried 155 and damn near fucked my elbow. Still trying to get shoulders to loosen up so the bar will rack properly.

Chins - left them out. Shitty workout, just felt dead after the squats.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 205

Squat: 270
Press: 120
Deadlift: 345

Squats felt really good, so did the presses. Deadlift was pretty heavy, grip started to fail... could have set my back better.

Need to gain more weight so I don't stall out. Right now I'm feeling pretty good though.

[tweakxc03]

Weight: 205

Squats: 275 - heavy, but form was pretty good. Felt strong.
Bench: 215 x5, x1... major failure
Pullups: BW x9, x5, x2

[tweakxc03]

Ended up missing monday due to some stomach problems. things are ok now.

Went to work out last night and had a terrible workout:

Body weight: 202

Squats: 265 x5, 245 x2 and dead. WTF?
Bench: 185x5x2, 195x5. again... what the fuck
Cleans: 95x3x2, 115x3, 135x3

must be from the caloric deficits.

back to pounding calories and milk i guess. maybe a reset is in order

[gzt]

What sort of stomach problems? You might not need a reset (well, the bench looks like it may be getting there), it just sometimes takes a couple days to get back in the groove if you've been sick.

[tweakxc03]

shit blood on saturday. didn't know what was causing it, so i dropped the milk, and skipped my workout on monday to wait to see what the doc said.

turns out it was a hemorrhoid or something like that, so i'm fine. i think it was just from missing a workout + caloric deficit for 2-3 days.

not shitting blood anymore, so that's good. and i don't have ass cancer, so that's good.

my bench has stalled out like a motherfucker though, so this part at least needs a reset

[tweakxc03]

Ok, so I had to take a 6-8 week break from the SS program to bear down and study my tits off for the CFA Level 2 exam. (Financial equivalent of the Bar for law).

Anyway, I went from about 205 down to about 190-195. So about 10-12 pounds lost. I expected my weights to go back nearly to where I started, which was about right. However, I've noticed I was able to maintain larger jumps for longer as I approach what I did before stopping.

I started back a couple of weeks ago and haven't updated my online log. So here goes:

Workout 1: Bodyweight 195
Squat - 185 - this was too much for the first workout back.
Bench - 155
Deadlift - 185

Workout 2:
Squat - 165
Press - 75
Deadlift - 175

Workout 3:
Squat - 175
Bench - 160
Deadlift - 185

Workout 4:
Squat - 185
Press - 80
Deadlift - 215

Workout 5: BW - 199
Squat - 195
Bench - 165
Deadlift - 225 - Form started feeling better. Bar didn't feel right until the weight started getting heavier. Probably doing something wrong. Need to get in with a camera.

Workout 6:
Squat - 205
Press - 85
Clean - 125 - bar racking nicely, much better than before I stopped. This weight is a little too light.

Missed a day last week...

Workout 7:
Squat - 215
Press - 170
Clean - 135

Workout 8:
Squat - 220
Bench - 170
Deadlift - 250

Workout 9:
Squat - 225
Press - 95
Clean - 135 - repeated againt to focus on form.

Workout 10:
Squat - 230
Bench - 175 - felt pretty heavy. Not sure why I'm struggling at this weight.
Deadlift - 265 - No problem. Tops of knees are getting bruised on the way down, which means I'm either a pussy or i'm doing something wrong.

Workout 11: Body Weight: 202
Squat - 235 - heavy as shit. Lower back is starting to have trouble recovering from pulling 3 days a week.
Press - 100 - felt fine.
Clean - 140 -- tired as balls. I was able to get this, but my form wasn't as solid as it was at 135. Form gets worse as I get more tired, mostly with the bar not racking properly at the top (elbows lower).

[Briks42]

You might not want to pull every workout. What I do is pull every other workout, alternating cleans and deadlifts. Then on the other days, I do weighted chinups. This template is in Practical Programming. So you are deadlifting every 4th workout. However, you can make bigger jumps from one deadlift workout to the next since you are still squatting every workout and the squat carries over to the deadlift (plus the lat work you get from the chins will help your deadlift indirectly too).

It looks like this:
Mon- squat, press, deadlift
Wed- squat, bench, chin
Fri- squat, press, clean
Mon- squat, bench, chin
Wed- squat, press, deadlift

etc.

[tweakxc03]

I don't pull every workout for the whole program. Just in the beginning.

I'm working with Justin Lascek for my programming needs.

[Briks42]

I don't pull every workout for the whole program. Just in the beginning.

I'm working with Justin Lascek for my programming needs.


Oh, good stuff.

[tweakxc03]

Need to eat more and get up over 205 ASAP.

Workout 12: Bodyweight - 203

Squats - 240 - These went, but my back was tiring out like hell. 240-245 was a big sticking point for me the last time through. Justin recommended I take an extra day off and go ahead and shift to only pulling 2 days a week. Clean monday, deadlift wednesday.

Bench - 180 - This was heavy but ok after making some adjustments to tempo and form.

Deadlift - 280 - Wasting a little bit too much energy on the way down. Need to just let the bar down a bit faster. Grip started to fail but I managed to get the set done. I expect 295 to go just fine.


Workout 13 - BW - 203. Took an extra day off to let the lower back settle down and get back on a MWF schedule.

Squats - 245. Got this with no problem. Back felt great, blasted through this sticking point without a problem. After a form check, I need to shorten up the squat a bit and make it sharper out of the bottom. Going too deep is killing the rebound.

Press - 105 This was cake. I've started pressing with my belt now, which is helping quite a bit. I think I still have a few 5 pound jumps left in me before going down to 2.5 pound jumps. Trying to get up to 125 ASAP.

Cleans - Some dickbone was using my usual cleaning platform, so the only bumper plates available were in kgs, so I did essentially 143 pounds. Form is still shit, but not as bad as before.

Chins - BW x6 x4 x3 - chins on mondays now, pullups on fridays.
Curls - per Justin, my arms are too fucking skinny, so I'm doing these at the end on Monday and Friday just to give them a little bit of a boost.

[MazdaMatt]

Hey Tweak, I have noticed that you're approx where I am in training, so I'm going to keep on eye on things here to see what I can learn. Second-hand knowledge from Jason seems valuable :) You've got a monster bench compared to mine and your BW is just about 5lbs ahead of me. I need to catch up in the BW, but bench will have to wait for my shoulder to sort out.

How old/tall are you? If you said so, I missed it.

[tweakxc03]

hey man... i'm turning 27 in November. I'm a tall, lanky fuck... 6'3", about 205 right now. I've got long arms and legs. Here's a link to some of my formcheck videos...

http://www.youtube.com/user/adamclontz

My bench stalled out at 210 before I had to take some time off. If I had been able to keep training, I probably would have reset the bench and built back up. Hopefully I can build it up to about 210, 215 before I stall out this time as well.

Note that the ONLY reason I'm doing curls twice a week is that my arms aren't growing really on pace with the rest of my body. The idea I guess is by giving them a little extra attention, I can add on a little more mass and keep the gains rolling.

[MazdaMatt]

Wow, you are a tall, lanky fuck. I'm 5'11" and 198 as of this morning. If I need another ten pounds, you need more :)

I'll look at your videos when I get a chance, but there's no point in me commenting if you've got Jason on you.

My bench was only up to 160 or so before I fooked my shoulder. Now i'm microloading at 120 :(

I'm amused that you feel the need to defend the curls :) haha... Chinups won't cut it for the arms? I've got hte same issue, but seriously NO upper body development relative to my legs. :(

[tweakxc03]

i don't understand the purpose of the curls entirely. just doing what i'm told.

I do chins and straight bar curls on monday, then pullups and db curls on friday.

Deadlifts are wednesday, Cleans Monday.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 206

Squats: 250 lower back is still tiring out, but sharpening up the rebound helped out a lot.

Bench: 185 felt MUCH better than last time at 180.

Deadlift: 295 still going up strong.

[tweakxc03]

Body Weight: 208

Squat: 255 - FAILED hard. Lower back was tired as shit today. It was burning quite a bit just during the warmup sets. I was only able to barely get the first set. Tried foam rolling my back out, but that didn't help. I unracked the bar for the second work set and immediately felt it tighten up a ton and just had to put the bar back on the rack.

I had this same issue at about 245 last time through. Monday's workout will be a recovery day for squats. Hopefully I can get past this sticking point without doing a reset.

Press: 110. The press actually felt really good. This is coming along nicely. 110 isn't "light", but I've got some more 5 pound jumps in me. 115 will certainly go next Wednesday.

Pullups: BW x6 x4 x3. These felt pretty good too.

[tweakxc03]

BW: 206

Squats: Worked up to 225 for 2 sets x5, x4. Today was a recovery day for my lower back. Didn't feel very good. Quads are hurting a good bit.

Bench - 190. went fine.

Chins - x7 x4 x3

No cleans today to let the back heal.

[tweakxc03]

No Squats on Friday. Let back rest over weekend. Body Weight: 208

Press: 115
Pullups: x8, x5, x2
Curls: 3x10

[tweakxc03]

Bodyweight: 208

Squats: 225. Got 3 sets in. My lower back still feels tired/tight. Need to do more stretching and foam rolling. Hopefully this weekend I can go get a deep tissue massage to try and loosen it up. I've got to get through this damn sticking point so that I can get back to cleans and deadlifts.

Bench: 200. Easy

Chins: BW x7 x4 x3

[Paul Sousa]

I just randomly decided to check your log. One thing you might want to try is getting a lax ball and using it to massage your glutes. If they are tight it could be causing mobility problems that lead to a sore back.

[tweakxc03]

hey good point. I am gonna give that a try. also getting an intense deep tissue massage this weekend, so that should help. After my back heals up I should be fine. 255 wasn't heavy at all, other than the lower back thing.

[tweakxc03]

BW: 209

I went to Tulsa to visit family last weekend. It turns out that Shane Hamman is a personal trainer there. I tracked him down and got in a session with him, working on my cleans. He's a really great guy and an excellent trainer. He really helped my form a LOT.

Prior to meeting him, the most I've ever done on the power clean was 155. My session went as follows...

Warmup:
Squats x45, x135, x155, x185

Cleans: 40kgx3x1, x60kgx3x2, 70kgx3x2, 80kgx2x2, 90kgx1x2 !! huge prs. felt great. Afterwards he gave me a brief primer on the snatch (just with an empty bar) for kicks.

Finished the workout with presses (work sets: 120 x5, x5, x4). I'm satisfied with the work set considering how tired my shoulders were from all the cleans.

Anyway, strange observation... my lower back didn't bother me really at all. I am finding that the stress on my lower back seems to be less from pulling from the floor too much, and more from having a load on my back during the squat.

I'm not sure what the deal is here. My form is fine. I got a deep tissue massage after the workout, which seemed to help also. I am goign to get another massage at some point this week hopefully and start stretching out my hips more, as posted above.