creatine workout days only or everyday?

[tamiki]

Question: Should you take creatine post-workout and workout mornings, or post-workout and every morning?

Thanks

[mstrofbass]

Every day.

[Dastardly]

I dont think you need to be worrying about supplements like creatine yet, Tamiki.

Just eat your food. Red meat contains plenty of creatine, and as Rip has proven. Milk & squats, is better than steroids for the novice.

[Campbell]

rip recommends taking creatine in one of his books.

I say take it. Every day. I do.

Dont bother with the loading they talk about, it is bullshit to get you to use more of it (and it can make you feel sick). Just take one teaspoon each morning in a warm drink. Use a warm drink so it dissolves properly as it is less likely to make you feel sick that way.

[mstrofbass]

I dont think you need to be worrying about supplements like creatine yet, Tamiki.

Just eat your food. Red meat contains plenty of creatine, and as Rip has proven. Milk & squats, is better than steroids for the novice.

It's stupid to forego such a well established, positive thing such as creatine on the presumption you're getting enough in the food you eat.

[Rorschach]

I eat a lot of red meat, and didn't notice any difference when I tried it for a month. That said, it works well for some people and it's not going to hurt, so if you have the money to spend, go for it.

My only caveat is to beware of falling into the "supplement trap" of becoming more interested in supplements than the actual training. I know a lot of people who obsess over supplements, and no offense, but this is the type of question they debate endlessly. ;)
Train big, eat big, sleep big. When you're sure you've got that sorted, then start fine-tuning.

[mstrofbass]

I eat a lot of red meat, and didn't notice any difference when I tried it for a month. That said, it works well for some people and it's not going to hurt, so if you have the money to spend, go for it.


My concern with this reasoning is that just because you didn't NOTICE a difference does not mean there wasn't one. If, after a year of use, it helps add 10% to the amount of weight you can lift compared to if you hadn't used it, that's a decent gain. But you might not be able to actually NOTICE the difference, even long term, since you don't know what would have happened without it, and the incremental gains are too small to measure.

So, I have a similar philosophy, taking it is going to have no negative impact, and possibly a positive impact, whereas not taking it is guaranteed to have none.

[Aslin]

5gs of creatine monohydrate per day, pre or post workout, doesnt matter, take it any time during the day on an off day.

[ILiftAlone]

[QUOTE=Rorschach;110377] I know a lot of people who obsess over supplements, and no offense, but this is the type of question they debate endlessly. ;)
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I know people exactly like this and it irritates me to no end. All they tell me is why I need to start taking x or y supplements and how I will get such a good pump. They actually believe they shouldnt be training without the use of supplements. I dont understand how people can be so brainwashed by a bunch of gay supplement adds promising to give you a better pump. What the fuck is so important about a pump anyways.

Did I say pump enough times? pump pump pump

I know this doesnt really answer the question but I had to say that.

[Kincain]

take it if you want it, but don't expect massive, ultimate, superhuman powers. I regard taking creatine as taking vitamins, if you want you can, but at the foundation is; adequate food intake. That's your base, if that's a-ok, go up the pyramid and at the very top is supplements such as creatine.

[Kincain]

ow, and if you all want to read up on some scientific research about creatine. This might be a good start, references are given, so you can check it.

Creatine (http://ergo-log.com/creatine.html)

[damonwells]

Nothing wrong with supplements, but get the most you can out of food, milk, and good training first. It just isn't cost effective at first. If you are doing all that correctly, supplements will add very little and even less in a novice. The added stress from a novel program and increased calories and protein from whole food is plenty. Consider a supplement regimen part of your intermediate complexity.

And yes, don't fall into the "supplement whore" trap. I deal with lots of college aged guys up here that have warehouses full of the latest MuscleTech miracles, and still weigh 150lbs.

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[MotoPsycho]

ow, and if you all want to read up on some scientific research about creatine. This might be a good start, references are given, so you can check it.

Creatine (http://ergo-log.com/creatine.html)


Thanks for that link!

[gzt]

IIRC, a good percentage of people see immediate and noticeable effects from creatine, it's higher among women, another group sees measurable but not "noticeable" effects, and another group sees little effect other than water retention. If you respond, great, if not, it doesn't hurt, at least. I think novices are performing at such a low level that performance enhancements can't be noticed, so it might be worth waiting until you're at a point where you can actually notice the effect, if any, so you know whether you're one of the responders or not.

[Dsol]

rip recommends taking creatine in one of his books.

I say take it. Every day. I do.

Dont bother with the loading they talk about, it is bullshit to get you to use more of it (and it can make you feel sick). Just take one teaspoon each morning in a warm drink. Use a warm drink so it dissolves properly as it is less likely to make you feel sick that way.

Where did ripp recommend it? Iv been looking for info on creatine and would be interested to know what ripp has to say about it.

[Carlos Daniel]

It's somewhere in PP, don't remember where.

[Dsol]

Just found it p.59 PPST. Thanks

[Carlos Daniel]

You can see aesthetic effects very quickly.

[Dsol]

You can see aesthetic effects very quickly.

Do you use it Carlos? If so what brand?

[Carlos Daniel]

I have been using it since I began lifting, which includes my pre-SS days. That's about 6-7 months.

I have used Optimum Nutrition and Prolab, both are good. Honestly, just get yourself some micronized creatine and you can't go wrong, the brand doesn't really matter if it's micronized. If not, just try to get one that does not taste like gasoline. Creatine is creatine after all.

And don't bother with creatine ethyl ester, creatine gnarl shbrubles etc...
Regular creatine monohydrate works just fine and probably better than any "designer" creatine you might find.

[Dsol]

Iv been using Optimum Nutrition whey protein I think I'll try their creatine. Thanks for the help.

[mstrofbass]

I have been using it since I began lifting, which includes my pre-SS days. That's about 6-7 months.

I have used Optimum Nutrition and Prolab, both are good. Honestly, just get yourself some micronized creatine and you can't go wrong, the brand doesn't really matter if it's micronized. If not, just try to get one that does not taste like gasoline. Creatine is creatine after all.

And don't bother with creatine ethyl ester, creatine gnarl shbrubles etc...
Regular creatine monohydrate works just fine and probably better than any "designer" creatine you might find.

I noticed the ON micronized creatine seems smaller than some cheap brand I had. Easier for me to get down with some water.

Then I discovered drinking it with juice, and it is actually bearable (as opposed to drinking what seems to be sandy water).

[Carlos Daniel]

I noticed the ON micronized creatine seems smaller than some cheap brand I had. Easier for me to get down with some water.

Then I discovered drinking it with juice, and it is actually bearable (as opposed to drinking what seems to be sandy water).

Is the cheap brand micronized as well? if not, that's the whole point of the micronized, to have small particles instead of big ones.

And yes, I hate the texture. I usually chug it down with something with sugar, the sugar granules keep me from noticing the sand texture. Works well with maltodextrin too.

[mstrofbass]

Is the cheap brand micronized as well? if not, that's the whole point of the micronized, to have small particles instead of big ones.

And yes, I hate the texture. I usually chug it down with something with sugar, the sugar granules keep me from noticing the sand texture. Works well with maltodextrin too.

Yeah, it was micronized. *shrugs*

I found the Simply Lemonade with Raspberry (yeah, yeah, how can it be simply lemonade when it also has raspberry?), and that's all I need. It's so goddamn good I look forward to creatine dose time just because of the juice.

[WaWa Bird]

Getting the most from your creatine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqY_JtJazyw.