lactose/lactase etc

[LondonTiger]

having diffiuclty digesting milk.

Used lactofree for a while. However it's diffiuclt to get hold of. And ususally found in semi-skimmed not whole milk.

Lactofree works for me though, dont have any stomach issues.

i want to try and supplement my lactase, and go to normal milk, because it's cheaper and more available than lactofree.

Bought some super lactase enzyment from holland and barret, ate 2 pills and an hour later startied sipping on 2ltr of milk.. all hell broke loose couples of hours later [in the form of diahorrea and bloated stomach)..

Each pill contains 125mg of lactase enzyme.

And it's not working..

Heard some people had success with putting pure lactase into milk for a couple of hours and then drinking them.. etc

Would like to hear your methods/dosage and works and what doesn't//

[ColoWayno]

Not sure how your enzyme works. I take some with my first sip of milk and I think it works ok. I'm guessing you have a different product, I use Lactaid.

[gzt]

I typically take 1 tablet of Lactaid per pint (9000 FCC units of lactase, don't know how that translates, but you can google it). I haven't really tried using less, but I may at some later time. I happen to drink milk a pint or two at a time, though, so that makes it more complicated to experiment (I know 1 pill is not good enough for 2 pints).

Anyway, here's the thing, there are several things that reduce the efficacy of the enzyme:
1. Don't take it on a completely empty stomach, your stomach acid will destroy the enzyme.
2. Don't take it too far in advance of your dairy consumption, the enzyme will clear out before you eat the dairy.
3. Don't treat it as a free pass to eat however much dairy you want. You need to find out how much dairy one pill is good for.

Anyway. The moral of the story is to take the lactase with your milk. If consume dairy for more than half an hour after taking it, you probably need another pill. And don't consume 2 liters on one pill, there's not enough enzyme to deal with it. The box this stuff came in probably has pretty much these exact instructions.

[LondonTiger]

Given up on lactase pills, I think the whole, take 1 pill with a pint, and take the pill with food 30 mins before drinking milk, and all the other things that you need to follow to use it effectively is a pain in the ass.

I just boought liquid lactase enzyme, not cheap, comes in 15ml bottles @ £10 each and need to use 4 drops per pint... So this thing will run out quick.. [but works out cheaper than lactofree]

Just drank my first pint, will let you know how it fares by the end of the day,. Either way,, I think milk that's been lactased has a better chance,and is more convenient to drink than popping pills with regular milk and hoping that the stomach gets the lactase in time and doesn't kill it off.

[gzt]

It's really too onerous? The instructions on the pills I have are basically to take it with the first bite of dairy. It's not too hard and it's not rocket surgery. I don't take it in advance, I take it with the food/milk. There are some lactase pills that aren't fast acting, and that's probably annoying to deal with, and that may be all you have in UKia, in which case my instructions don't work and you deal with the crappy sort of instructions you just outlined. But, seriously, if you have the fast-acting stuff, it's not that hard. Pour pint of milk, grab pill, chug pint down with pill. Or, scoop out bowl of ice cream, grab pill, eat pill with first bite of ice cream. If your stomach was empty, maybe have pill with third bite of ice cream. If that doesn't work in general, do two pills. Not. That. Hard.

[LimieJosh]

If you genuinely have problems with the lactose and still want the benfit of milk then use it to make your own yoghurt.

Pain in the arse? Of course, but so is getting under a 2XBW squat.

[LondonTiger]

Well actually my H&B pillls dont have any instructions.. I'm guessing they didn't do it because if someone with serious allergies to lactose takes it and kills him/jherself [worse case scenarion] they dont want to be liable, because they didn't make any claims or write an directions on how to use it.

I experiemented and took your guys instructions on how to take it it was a bit hit n miss..

It's not feasable for me.. sometimes it works fine, other times I get the runners, and more typically just get a really bad case of the winds. When you're taking 4litres of milk a day, you can't leave stuff to chance like that.

Pre-lactased milk like lactofree and the stuff I'm doing right now is far more reliable for me.. I guess everyone is different, if downoing the pill with milk works for you, then more power to you..

[smitty]

If the pills don't work for you with milk, lactase drops are a great way to make it tolerable. I have tried Lacteeze (from amazon) and Disolact (from alice.com). Both work well, I use 15 drops 48 hours in advance of consumption.

[NKT]

If you genuinely have problems with the lactose and still want the benfit of milk then use it to make your own yoghurt.

Pain in the arse? Of course, but so is getting under a 2XBW squat.

If you can get some kefir grains, it's a much easier way to make cultured milk. It works at room temperature and isn't nearly as finicky as yogurt.

[knkavo]

I just boought liquid lactase enzyme, not cheap, comes in 15ml bottles @ £10 each and need to use 4 drops per pint... So this thing will run out quick.. [but works out cheaper than lactofree]

The drops are the only thing that worked for me, but worked much better if I then leave the milk for 48 hours instead of the recommended 24 before drinking. I also put in more than 4 drops, but I think that's probably unnecessary.

[gzt]

I looked up the instructions on your brand of lactase tablets. Yes, it has instructions on the label, at least according to the label I looked at. The dose of lactase per pill is listed as 1750 FCC units, which is about 1/5 of what my pills are. That could explain why my results are different to yours. Mine might be overkill.

[LondonTiger]

I looked up the instructions on your brand of lactase tablets. Yes, it has instructions on the label, at least according to the label I looked at. The dose of lactase per pill is listed as 1750 FCC units, which is about 1/5 of what my pills are. That could explain why my results are different to yours. Mine might be overkill.

yes, i think you're right.

it does have instructions, but very vague something like "take 1-3 tablets before a meal containing lactose.." how much milk does a typical person drink with a meal... the answer would vary between "depends" and "not a lot", so i just dismissed the instructions when i read it.

I rarely buy stuff from h&b, they're just rip offs, and at best only good to use temporarily [in emergencies] whilst the stuff you ordered online arrives at your door.

[LondonTiger]

yup, lactase drops are working for me pretty well.

[StickFigure]

Have you tried out Raw milk yet? It still has all the natural lactase in it to help with the lactose-intolerance. I have heard it works for some people and some people it does not.

The pasteurization process kills the lactase off so to speak so that is why I prefer raw milk.

[LondonTiger]

stiuckfugre, I have't tried raw milk, but I have tried filtered (not pasturised milk).. haven't had it in large enough volumes to tell a difference though.. It's called cravendale and says that pasteurising kills the enzymes and goodness so it's filtered through ceramics to kill the bacteria.

Either way I'm going off gomad and sticking to high protein, high fat, and low carbs.

Going off grains, bread, sugar etc..

A dude I know does paelo and xrossfit, swears by it.. Lifts are pretty strong and going up.. and he has a 6pack! Used to be a fat bastard before.

Milk in such large portions gave me constipation and made me fat.. So I need to scale back on the sugary carbs.

[simonsky]

stiuckfugre, I have't tried raw milk, but I have tried filtered (not pasturised milk).. haven't had it in large enough volumes to tell a difference though.. It's called cravendale and says that pasteurising kills the enzymes and goodness so it's filtered through ceramics to kill the bacteria.

Either way I'm going off gomad and sticking to high protein, high fat, and low carbs.

Going off grains, bread, sugar etc..

A dude I know does paelo and xrossfit, swears by it.. Lifts are pretty strong and going up.. and he has a 6pack! Used to be a fat bastard before.

Milk in such large portions gave me constipation and made me fat.. So I need to scale back on the sugary carbs.

your now fat? whats your height and weight?

[LondonTiger]

simonsky, I'm 196lbs (90kg) and 6'2"

Fuck these imperial measurements... why can't everyone get together and come to a universal metric system.. Instead of mixing all these outdated british standards.

[Monster]

Pay extra and get organic raw whole milk

Raw organic whole milk is known to give no tolerance issues to many folks who are lactose intolerant

I am not lactose intolerant but the organic RAW milk made a HUGE difference for me

Supposedly breed of cow can also make a difference

http://www.windsordairy.com/articles/a1-and-a2-milk.html