KFC Double Down

[jameson]

OH YEAH! April 12th 2010.

http://gizmodo.com/5508246/dear-god-kfcs-chicken+as+bread-sandwich-is-coming

Discuss.

[Greg C]

The review makes this sound bad... only issue I see is the HYYYUUUUUUUGGGGEE amount of salt. Fix - drink water baby. Otherwise, looks like a protein and fat snack fit for heavy lifters. Bring it on!

[Makeshift Chef]

Well, the inclusion of bacon and cheese means that I'll be sure to swing by KFC to try this out. There's lots of things in this world that could be improved with that duo. Even better: April 12 is one of my workout days.

[LondonTiger]

Don't eat bacon, is this the first time KFC sold bacon?

[Gary Gibson]

One person in the thread in the link wrote "The government needs to step in and regulate this." I don't think they were kidding. People who think things like this need to be put down like the statist meddling dogs they are.

The more "social" medical care gets, the more meddlers like this are going to believe they can tell you what to do with your body. It won't be long before the busybodies are outlawing squats because "they ruin knees and create an unnecessary need for knee surgery." Just wait.

[Bradeep]

That looks delicious and I hope it's real.

I bet the person who said the government needs to regulate this sort of thing is skinny-fat and thinks hipster kids are the pinnacle of physical fitness.

[Greg C]

One person in the thread in the link wrote "The government needs to step in and regulate this." I don't think they were kidding. People who think things like this need to be put down like the statist meddling dogs they are.

The more "social" medical care gets, the more meddlers like this are going to believe they can tell you what to do with your body. It won't be long before the busybodies are outlawing squats because "they ruin knees and create an unnecessary need for knee surgery." Just wait.

While I agree that in general, the amount of government intervention/regulation can get out of hand, the current financial situation is largely a result of the banks largely being unregulated with respect to credit and simply going for the biggest possible profit - and we are all dealing with the consequence.

In respect to medical, we can, to some extent, see a similar issue with the major drug manufacturers ---- got a problem? Hey, I got a pill for that!!

While I don't want the government to tell me how to handle all of my health issues, it is pretty obvious (to me at least) that the situation is not black and white, but is rather in shades of gray.

[misspelledgeoff]

Why would any bank motivated by profit alone knowingly make irreresponsible lending decisions?


While I agree that in general, the amount of government intervention/regulation can get out of hand, the current financial situation is largely a result of the banks largely being unregulated with respect to credit and simply going for the biggest possible profit - and we are all dealing with the consequence.

In respect to medical, we can, to some extent, see a similar issue with the major drug manufacturers ---- got a problem? Hey, I got a pill for that!!

While I don't want the government to tell me how to handle all of my health issues, it is pretty obvious (to me at least) that the situation is not black and white, but is rather in shades of gray.

[Greg C]

Why would any bank motivated by profit alone knowingly make irreresponsible lending decisions?

Uh, gee, overwhelming greed leads directly to ..... STUPIDITY

Seriously though, they did the same due diligence banks have always done with lending applications, but took significantly more and more risk on, loaning $ to people who simply were poor risks. IMO, it was largely because there was a creep in the line banks were willing to cross with respect to risk. So what initially looks like just a little more risk and not necessarily irresponsible, compounds itself over time and becomes almost moronic in nature.

But hey, I still want a damn sandwich!!!

[Chewie_jrc]

Unregulated banks led to the financial meltdown? Really? It's that simple huh. Well good thing we found the SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE; now we just have to regulate it and BAM, PROBLEM SOLVED! Because it worked so well in Japan and France!! Bailouts and regulation solved all of Japan's problems after their real-estate crash. And France hasn't had any huge bouts of corruption with there regulated banking! Oh wait....shit....

Nevermind GSE's like fannie/freddie that inflated the market via artificially redirecting funds to real estate or the Fed with it's direct control over interest rates or the symboitic relationship in general between the financial machine and the politicians or....

The KFC calorie bomb looks epic though

[Greg C]

Unregulated banks led to the financial meltdown? Really? It's that simple huh. Well good thing we found the SINGLE POINT OF FAILURE; now we just have to regulate it and BAM, PROBLEM SOLVED! Because it worked so well in Japan and France!! Bailouts and regulation solved all of Japan's problems after their real-estate crash. And France hasn't had any huge bouts of corruption with there regulated banking! Oh wait....shit....

Nevermind GSE's like fannie/freddie that inflated the market via artificially redirecting funds to real estate or the Fed with it's direct control over interest rates or the symboitic relationship in general between the financial machine and the politicians or....

The KFC calorie bomb looks epic though

Geesssssussss.... of course not. And no, regulation is not a blanket solution any more than deregulation is. Good lord... did I mention that the world is shades of gray?

And yes, fannie and freddie are minestrone on rye as well....

Still wanna sandwich....

[Chewie_jrc]

Sorry for the tongue-lashing. I'm just really tired of this hindsight is 20-20 bullshit thinking. I don't know why people feel the need to distill everything to some simple solution after a quick analysis...especially something as crazy and stochastic as macroeconomics or politco-strategic interactions. *shrugs* Or maybe it's just cuz my boss is pissing me off today, my bad.

Yeah, I'm getting pretty excited for the sandwhich. I"ll be out of the country during it's release but I will be eagerly awaitng my return to the states.

[Greg C]

no sweat buddy.

I'll eat one for you. ;)

[bomb1977]

I'm all over this bitch on my weight lifting days, I will steer clear of it on cardio and off days though :p

I can't wait to hear the uproar over how terrible this is and how much fatter people are going to get. All I know is 62 grams of protein is gonna make me big :)

I'll get 2 the fist time, if I am stuffed after the 1st one...I'll nuke #2 later :)

Move over McGangbang, hello Double Down!

[strengthstarter]

I'm not sure I believe the calorie information they are giving:

KFC Original Recipe® Double Down
540cal
32g fat
1380mg sodium

But if you do the math:

2 KFC Chicken Breasts
740cal
38g fat
2290mg sodium
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/foods-from-kfc/6498/2

2 slices bacon
82.6cal
6.2g fat
176mg sodium
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/pork-products/7356/2

2 slices cheese
208cal
17g fat
300mg sodium
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/dairy-and-egg-products/24/2

Sauce
130 cal
14g fat
120mg sodium
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/foods-from-kfc/6509/2
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts/foods-from-kfc/6510/2

For a total of:
1160 calories
107.2g fat
4266mg sodium

* The sauce calculation is messed up so I adjusted it based on the macronutrients...

[Sami]

Unless they're using smaller pieces of chicken?

[MazdaMatt]

"The more "social" medical care gets, the more meddlers like this are going to believe they can tell you what to do with your body."



Sorry dude, you've been had by anti-obama propaganda. All of us up here in Canada watch you crazies rally against helping sick people and we shake our heads. BTW, nobody stands at my local KFC measuring your bodyfat and kicking you out if you want to order a bucket of fried chicken.

I know you think you have a smart reply, but then all of us Canadians will AGAIN shake our heads at your lunicy. BTW, my knee hurts... I'm going to go to the doctor...

[bomb1977]

Unless they're using smaller pieces of chicken?

I think you nailed it there, I think it's going to be on the size level of a mcdonalds double cheeseburger. I can't see it being a full sized burger, then it would have to be north of 1000 calories...unless they use white meat and very little of the breading.

Will be interesting to see, I hope we get it in canada soon!

[strengthstarter]

Sorry dude, you've been had by anti-obama propaganda. All of us up here in Canada watch you crazies rally against helping sick people and we shake our heads. BTW, nobody stands at my local KFC measuring your bodyfat and kicking you out if you want to order a bucket of fried chicken.

This idea is not an illogical one. Once the government has a hand in socializing costs, there is a more legitimate reason to expand government influence over these kinds of things. Helmet laws, seatbelt laws-- these things have been passed absent such a justification, but if the government is footing the hospital bills, then they now have a legitimate interest in minimizing costs.

There is also a push in this country by some Democrats to do things like "ban" or tax sugary drinks because of the obesity epidemic. Such legislation has more of a solid footing, again, if the government now has a fiscal interest in modifying our eating habits.

At the end of the day, I think universal health care is something the US needs to adopt. The free market just wasn't doing its job. It is a pretty classic third-party flaw in free market assumptions when it comes right down to it. But I do worry that we can go too far down this road and end up with a system that is even worse, and one that unfairly limits people's ability to make decisions. Let's hope our leaders exhibit some wisdom in implementing this. Sigh. This is probably not going to happen.

[misspelledgeoff]

well you are a fucking idiot then. it started happening in the US even before this healthcare monstrosity passed.

http://www.nypolitics.com/2010/03/08/mayor-bloomberg-calls-for-sugar-tax/

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/home_top_stories/20100304_Nutter_proposes_2-cent-per-ounce_sweet-drink_tax.html

What do you think these "sugar taxes" are other than government telling people what they should do with their bodies?



"The more "social" medical care gets, the more meddlers like this are going to believe they can tell you what to do with your body."



Sorry dude, you've been had by anti-obama propaganda. All of us up here in Canada watch you crazies rally against helping sick people and we shake our heads. BTW, nobody stands at my local KFC measuring your bodyfat and kicking you out if you want to order a bucket of fried chicken.

I know you think you have a smart reply, but then all of us Canadians will AGAIN shake our heads at your lunicy. BTW, my knee hurts... I'm going to go to the doctor...

[MazdaMatt]

What do you think these "sugar taxes" are other than government telling people what they should do with their bodies?

uhm... bandwagon vote-grabbing? What the fuck else do politicians do? They look like they give a shit based on the greatest whining and bitching. New York banned trans fat deep frying long before Obama was in office... The average american waist size (Canadian, too) shows that people don't care to educate themselves on not becoming fat pieces of shit and they feel they need something to blame. There's actually a lobby group out there trying to get Ronald out of McD's advertising because that skinny coked-out clown teaches children that big macs are fun. Truth is, their parents show them this. It has nothing to do with healthcare, but it sure makes a great anti-obama argument.

[nisora33]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2137/4510035494_53116c0e01_o.jpg

[stronger]

Sorry dude, you've been had by anti-obama propaganda. All of us up here in Canada watch you crazies rally against helping sick people and we shake our heads.

that's not really a fair characterization of opposition to the healthcare bill.

[fatcat669]

Sorry dude, you've been had by anti-obama propaganda. All of us up here in Canada watch you crazies rally against helping sick people and we shake our heads. BTW, nobody stands at my local KFC measuring your bodyfat and kicking you out if you want to order a bucket of fried chicken.

I know you think you have a smart reply, but then all of us Canadians will AGAIN shake our heads at your lunicy. BTW, my knee hurts... I'm going to go to the doctor...

Canada isn't some promised land of healthcare either. Btw the government in Canada just took away your right to purchase legally and smoke flavoured cigars in singles, and soon will do away with the packaged type eventually. stop talking out your ass.

[Mr.City]

I feel like KFC ripped off the McGangbang somewhat.

[jameson]

One person in the thread in the link wrote "The government needs to step in and regulate this." I don't think they were kidding. People who think things like this need to be put down like the statist meddling dogs they are.

The more "social" medical care gets, the more meddlers like this are going to believe they can tell you what to do with your body. It won't be long before the busybodies are outlawing squats because "they ruin knees and create an unnecessary need for knee surgery." Just wait.

Thanks for stirring the pot then leaving and letting it fester. Really, thanks. :D

Hopefully, Nisora and Mr.City will bring this thread back to it's full glory. Today's the day, folks. The Double Down is officially here!

[Mr.City]

Okay, so a double down between 2 mcdoubles or a mcdouble between 2 double downs?

[nisora33]

Okay, so a double down between 2 mcdoubles or a mcdouble between 2 double downs?

The latter choice, obviously.

[PVC]

Okay, so a double down between 2 mcdoubles or a mcdouble between 2 double downs?

Why limit yourself? Just do both.

[Mr.City]

Why limit yourself? Just do both.

Excellent. Next test: What shall be used to wash this down with?

[PVC]

Howbout some diet water?

http://www.lowbudgetprosper.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/diet-water.jpg

I mean, you've got to watch your calorie intake after all.

[jameson]

Excellent. Next test: What shall be used to wash this down with?

How many times must I say this? The answer is Pabst.

Whether it be the Selleck Waterfall Sandwich or any other epic food, one must wash it down with Pabst.

[Makeshift Chef]

Well, I ate one of these for lunch today. It was surprisingly tasty! All things considered I could do without the sauce on it. It was some sort of cross between mayo and onion blossom dipping sauce. Fine for what it was, but my personal preference would be some BBQ sauce. It had just enough cheese and bacon on it to add some nice flavor. Got the fried version this time, next time I'll try the grilled! Now, pass me some of that diet water...

[Nauticus]

Tried the grilled version myself PWO. It was delicious, but I refuse to drink soda and eat fries (a better insulin spike can be obtained from something else), and it cost 4 bucks by itself. Fuck that, I could get more calories and protein out of a gallon of milk for a buck less

[jameson]

"grilled?"

"insulin spike?"

Hmmm....

Well, I had one of these today, too. My fictitious 9 year old sister could've eaten one. It wasn't filling at all. I second the "mcdouble between 2 double downs." And expensive! $8 for the combo...

[Nauticus]

"grilled?"

"insulin spike?".

There's no way that sandwich wouldn't have something to spike insulin.. that BBQ sauce would certainly do it.

[Sami]

Fuck you guys.

I'm still going to make my own somehow.

[jameson]

There's no way that sandwich wouldn't have something to spike insulin.. that BBQ sauce would certainly do it.

I know, I know... It was just a poke at you saying "insulin spike" and "grilled" without making fun of someone else for saying it. Those words rarely show up in my vocabulary. They are usually replaced by "gravy" and "fried." You know, stuff like that. Like this:

I'm sipping on coffee because of the "insulin spike" from the fried Double Down, mashed taters-n-gravy, and Pepsi I had for lunch.

[OMG]

UMMM


http://sweettater.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kfc-doubledown4.jpg

[Charles Staley]

OK, when I bought mine, the cheese wasn't melted like that- WTF?!?!?

UMMM


http://sweettater.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kfc-doubledown4.jpg

[jameson]

OK, when I bought mine, the cheese wasn't melted like that- WTF?!?!?

Mine either. We were gypped.

[Charles Staley]

Goddammit. It was still good though


Mine either. We were gypped.

[homerj742]

It's fast food, what do you expect?

I'm making my own this weekend! With more bacon.

[PVC]

And maybe throw some Frank's Red Hot in there for good measure.

[vmarwin]

It's fast food, what do you expect?

I'm making my own this weekend! With more bacon.

I was thinking the same thing when I got it. Its a great idea, one that could be made much more delicious at home. It was WAY too salty.

[Mr.City]

It wasn't too bad. The grilled one is pretty greasy/juicy though.

[WaWa Bird]

A very entertaining article on the Double Down.

http://www.fathead-movie.com/index.php/2010/04/12/i-doubled-down-and-lived-to-tell/

[jameson]

May I present the Krispy Kreme Double Down:


http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/jamesoncp/krispykremedoubledown.jpg

[Makeshift Chef]

May I present the Krispy Kreme Double Down:


http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz140/jamesoncp/krispykremedoubledown.jpg

Reminds of those double cheeseburgers made with Krispy Kreme donuts. Speaking of Krispy Kreme dounts, is there any doughnut more glorious than a hot and now original glazed? Man, so glad I don't live too close to the one here in Dallas. I'd be even fatter than I currently am!

[Marotta]

Tried to get one, apparently they don't sell them in Canada... I just walked out of the place when I found out I couldn't get one.

[Marotta]

Huge Bump.


As of this past Monday, Double Downs are available in Canada, I'll be getting 2 on this coming FFF (Fast Food Friday).

While looking for the price I found this article, comments are stupid/hilarious
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101018/double-down-kfc-101018/20101018/?hub=TorontoNewHome

[MazdaMatt]

I haven't had one yet, but I will. I'm not too impressed with it. Fewer calories and more salt than my usual Wendy's Double Bacon Deluxe. I don't know the protein count off-hand, but the burger has 90g.

Edit - i just read the comments on that news site... pretty uneducated bunch of knee-jerkers. This thing isn't THAT bad... 500 cals? If you eat 3 meals/day and you don't eat 500 cals at each of them you are by definition anorexic.

[Marotta]

Hugely disappointed.

[SiriusBomb]

Yeah it just kind of sucked. What made it worse for me was that my friend ordered a 1 piece combo with mashed potatoes and macaroni and cheese and it cost less than my shitty, cold double down sandwich.