Quinoa

[Gary Gibson]

I'm dating a goddamned quasi-vegetarian. Bless her heart, she will actually eat game meat, but won't eat the factory-farmed stuff on moral grounds. She weeps a bit when I stuff cooked cow parts in my mouth and make contented noises. Wants me to make a quinoa a big part of my diet and to rely on goat's milk.

Your thoughts?

[nisora33]

My wife and I agreed from the beginning that we would not try to change each other. It has remained that way to this day. Any other attitude would have been a deal breaker for me.

-S.

[Paul Sousa]

I tried quinoa back when I read Men's Health and it was listed as a super food. I couldn't do it purley due to texture, but taste wise it wasn't bad. It's versatile too, I tried it as a breakfast food (kind of like oatmeal) and as a dinner side. Just add whatever seasoning you want to make it work.

And why goat's milk?

[Ian Kovtunovich]

I am not a huge quinoa fan, although I have grown to accept it. My wife sometimes does up a batch of 50/50 rice and quinoa, which works pretty well as a base for throwing stir fry or what have you on. It will work in pretty well with anything that is typically a rice-and-sauce type of affair. I'm not too into the texture or the flavor, but I gather that it is a hell of a lot healthier than rice, so I just suck it up and deal.

[Rorschach]

Quinoa's great. Quite a bit more nutritious than rice, and I love the taste.
Unfortunately it's a damn sight more expensive too. Until I find a wholesale vendor, it's not going to make a regular appearance at my table.

[jameson]

Start hunting and fishing?

[Ian Kovtunovich]

Start hunting and fishing?

Jameson, quinoa actually comes from a plant, so camo, weapons, and waders are probably overkill.

[Rorschach]

You sound like one of those liberal hippies who claim automatic weapons with armour-piercing rounds are unnecessary while deer hunting.

Clearly you've never encountered a cornered quinoa.

[Ian Kovtunovich]

You sound like one of those liberal hippies who claim automatic weapons with armour-piercing rounds are unnecessary while deer hunting.

Clearly you've never encountered a cornered quinoa.

Goddammit, you're right. I'm a city dweller, and my only experience with quinoa is seeing it all dead, dried, and passive in the bulk bins at the local food co-op. I lack the intestinal fortitude to even find out where the stuff comes from, let alone go out and kill one myself. Hey, ignorance is bliss, right?

[jameson]

I'm dating a goddamned quasi-vegetarian. Bless her heart, she will actually eat game meat, but won't eat the factory-farmed stuff on moral grounds. She weeps a bit when I stuff cooked cow parts in my mouth and make contented noises. Wants me to make a quinoa a big part of my diet and to rely on goat's milk.

Your thoughts?


Jameson, quinoa actually comes from a plant, so camo, weapons, and waders are probably overkill.

That would be the reason for my post. Consider me anti-quinoa.

[GVA-66]

I'm dating a goddamned quasi-vegetarian. Bless her heart, she will actually eat game meat, but won't eat the factory-farmed stuff on moral grounds. She weeps a bit when I stuff cooked cow parts in my mouth and make contented noises. Wants me to make a quinoa a big part of my diet and to rely on goat's milk.

Your thoughts?


I was wondering where you've been and why you haven't been posting much as of late.

Glad you found someone. Hope it works out.

[Ian Kovtunovich]

I'm dating a goddamned quasi-vegetarian. Bless her heart, she will actually eat game meat, but won't eat the factory-farmed stuff on moral grounds. She weeps a bit when I stuff cooked cow parts in my mouth and make contented noises. Wants me to make a quinoa a big part of my diet and to rely on goat's milk.

Your thoughts?

In all seriousness, you should watch Food, Inc. with her, say "you're right. Factory farming is inhumane and disgusting. However, look at that fella with the small farm, killing and dressing the chickens himself. Those birds get to live like wild animals up to the point they are humanely dispatched from the mortal plane. Babydoll, my sweet alfalfa sprout, [<--optional], I think a balanced approach is the way to go. I think meat is delicious and healthful, and I think you are, too. Therefore, I will commit myself to eating the most humanely-raised meat I can get my hands on." Then you head down to Chipotle for a burrito, or hit your local natural foods market for some free range, grass fed beef.

[Makeshift Chef]

In all seriousness, you should watch Food, Inc. with her, say "you're right. Factory farming is inhumane and disgusting. However, look at that fella with the small farm, killing and dressing the chickens himself. Those birds get to live like wild animals up to the point they are humanely dispatched from the mortal plane. Babydoll, my sweet alfalfa sprout, [<--optional], I think a balanced approach is the way to go. I think meat is delicious and healthful, and I think you are, too. Therefore, I will commit myself to eating the most humanely-raised meat I can get my hands on." Then you head down to Chipotle for a burrito, or hit your local natural foods market for some free range, grass fed beef.

I am in agreement with Ian Kovtunovich. I really enjoyed the information presented by Food, Inc. The misses and I watched it a while ago via Netflix instant queue. King Corn was another one we enjoyed watching. As for quinoa, I find both the taste and texture pretty unpalatable. I have no experience with goat's milk so no help from me there. Goats help make some tasty cheeses though.

[NKT]

I've enjoyed calorie-dense "salads" made of quinoa: combine cold, cooked quinoa, chopped spinach, and saturate with salad dressing.

The stuff cooks very quickly, around 10 minutes. Also sprouts quicker than any other grain, if you're into that sort of thing.

[PVC]

Wants me to make a quinoa a big part of my diet and to rely on goat's milk.

Your thoughts?

This is a good thing. She thinks she can change you. Let her think she can, for as long as possible. Just make sure you don't actually do it.

[MazdaMatt]

You can use it exactly how you use rice. Cooks the same, stirfries the same, etc. My only suggestion would be to not make it with water, but use beef/chicken/veggie broth instead.

[Monster]

Haven't seen you around these parts for awhile

only 3 posts in 21 days

must be some kind of record

[Johnson]

http://www.veganfitness.net/viewforum.php?f=16&sid=2ae7801386afa8908f2ab49dcf1ed561

[GVA-66]

This is a good thing. She thinks she can change you. Let her think she can, for as long as possible. Just make sure you don't actually do it.

Or perhaps he just should take the direct approach and nip that shit in the bud real quick. The next time she says "quinoa" hit her repeatedly in the head with a t-bone steak until she passes out and then sodomize her with a kielbasa. When she wakes up hand her an apron and make her cook the steak and kielbasa (great with sour cream and apple sauce on the side, oh, and don't forget to make her rinse it well) and serve it with a smile.

And concur with Food, Inc. and King Corn recommendations, and would add Fat Head to the list.

[ColoWayno]

If you use it, buy it rinsed or rinse it yourself. It should taste fairly good if it's rinsed properly. My family used to cook it once in a while instead of rice. A few (I have four kids) of my kids weren't huge fans but I liked it just fine and so did my wife (she's a picky eater).
If there's anything to the hype, you'll be getting a good high protein carb source with a decent amino profile.
It's gotten very expensive though, since they've labeled it a super-food, so we don't use it much anymore.

[Ian Kovtunovich]

My only suggestion would be to not make it with water, but use beef/chicken/veggie broth instead.

+1 on that. Extra flavor that way!

[ZKP]

Gary

I have been with my lady for a couple of years now and have known her for several before that. She is similar. At first, as all people do, you make large "adjustments" for your other half's preference but fundamentally, unless you really want to eat that stuff (shit), you are not going to in the long run. Throw some in, see if you like it. If so, great. If not, respect your and her feelings enough to be honest about it. If she's a mature adult she'll understand the futility of changing your tastes (and vice versa) and that being your girlfriend is not tantamount, or would it be desirable, to make you a different person. It has to do with actually liking someone for who they are, rather than making them into you. Appreciating and respecting the differences between each other is key here, and those differences can break you or be a lot of fun, it just depends on how you enter into it. Good luck bud.......Z

[nisora33]

Or perhaps he just should take the direct approach and nip that shit in the bud real quick. The next time she says "quinoa" hit her repeatedly in the head with a t-bone steak until she passes out and then sodomize her with a kielbasa. When she wakes up hand her an apron and make her cook the steak and kielbasa (great with sour cream and apple sauce on the side, oh, and don't forget to make her rinse it well) and serve it with a smile.


You are now my internet crush.

[Rorschach]

Back of the queue, sue.

[Patrick]

On the culinary side of things, I actually like quinoa. I find that rinsing or soaking really does help if you have a problem with texture, so try that. Flavor wise, I find it sucks up flavor really well so I like to throw in something like a roasted red pepper once the quinoa is done cooking and stir it up... that or some herbs or something... good stuff.

Goat milk is nasty and I wouldn't touch it.

Also, the impulse to change is natural so I wouldn't hold that against her. But I wouldn't do it and if you don't really want to, I suggest you say so early. If she can't accept that, that is what I would hold against her.

[Rorschach]

If she can't accept that, that is what I would hold against her.

Also your penis.

[Patrick]

Also your penis.

Right. If she doesn't accept Gary's choice I will hold my penis against her. I work in Baltimore so I'm local.

[MazdaMatt]

Tell her when she front squats 400 you'll consider going veggitarian. Till then, maybe try vaggitarian to keep her happy.

[bomb1977]

I eat Quinoa pretty much every morning. I make a big batch of it on Sunday morning when my parents come over for lunch. I put the majority of it in the fridge and nuke it every morning. 30 minute cooking time...yikes.

What's not to like about it, high in protein and a great nutritional profile.

Yeah so what it's a vegan thing and tiny vegan/veg heads eat it for protein.

I hate oatmeal, I find it takes too damn long to eat.

Quinoa is the only vegan/gluten free/blabla fill in the blank item that I eat. The rest of my diet is tuna, chicken, other fish, big ass hunks of meat etc...

[homerj742]

Gary,

nothing wrong with trying something new. Just don't let her "change" you. What we eat is a very personal thing. She's made her decision based on her experiences and beliefs, and you have your reasons for eating what you do. If there's a mutual respect, then you should be fine.

[Gwynn]

Quinoa's cheap if you can buy in bulk. Cooks fast, and it's less sentient than, say, a carrot, which screams when you cut it. Organic meat - yummy but expensive. I feel for you there. I'm inherently callous enough that I've gone for cheap over ethical, but I'm enough of a food snob that I just can't eat the cheap stuff. Once I spent $50 on one steak that came from a cow in Marin County that I picked out. Then I was sent to rehab.

It's still new, so it seems to me that if you can pick one or two easy things to cave in to - er, negotiate - it might be a good plan. But goat's milk? Where is the logic in that? Cows can be happy too. You just need to find the right one.

I have a friend who has a friend... that lived in a vegan household. They said "you shouldn't eat anything you are not wiling to kill." So she brought home a chicken and slaughtered it in the front yard. My hero.

[PVC]

I have a friend who has a friend... that lived in a vegan household. They said "you shouldn't eat anything you are not wiling to kill." So she brought home a chicken and slaughtered it in the front yard. My hero.

Is she single?

[Ian Kovtunovich]

I have a friend who has a friend... that lived in a vegan household. They said "you shouldn't eat anything you are not wiling to kill." So she brought home a chicken and slaughtered it in the front yard. My hero.

HAHAHAHAHA! That is fanfuckingtastic.

[GVA-66]

I have a friend who has a friend... that lived in a vegan household. They said "you shouldn't eat anything you are not wiling to kill." So she brought home a chicken and slaughtered it in the front yard. My hero.


HAHAHAHAHA! That is fanfuckingtastic.


LOL. Agree with Ian, fanfuckingtastic.

[homerj742]

I have a friend who has a friend... that lived in a vegan household. They said "you shouldn't eat anything you are not wiling to kill." So she brought home a chicken and slaughtered it in the front yard. My hero.

That ruled haha

[strengthstarter]

Gary,

If you care to, look into free-range grass-fed meats. They are better for you and the animals are treated much more ethically. The meat is quite a bit more pricey though, although you can bring that quite a bit down if you have a large enough freezer.

And yeah, Food, Inc. is pretty eye-opening.

[Peter_k]

Kasha > Quinoa IMO.

Harder to make it taste good (Kasha has a nutty taste not everyone likes) but it's way cheaper and filling as hell.

Plus it doesn't take long to cook at all.

I'm pretty sure I bought 1 lb of it for $1 once. Not bad.

[hamboni]

Gary,

If it's the ethical side of things she's into, check out Springfield Farm--they're in Balto Co., and way cheaper than Whole Foods & similar stores. All pasture-raised animals by really friendly people. I think they even have a stand at the Farmer's market on Sundays.