Anniversary of Israeli bombing of US ship and killing of 40+ sailors

[LondonTiger]

This weeks marks the anniversary was of the sinking of USS Liberty by the Israli air force.

This case isn't widely heard of because of the 40 year gagging order placed on the witnesses to prevent coverage and reporting on the event.

The even is speculated that this was a deliberate incident planned by both the US and Israeli forces in order to

1) scrap the USS Liberty which was nearing the end of it's useful life.
2) blame the attack on egyptians
3) garner public opinion for military intervention against egypt.

Unofortunately, the incident didn't go to plan as the whole attack was witnessed by the russians who could clearly identify both parties involved in this staged attack (even though Israeli's were a lot closer and still claim that they didn't know they were attacking an ally).

More info here: http://www.gtr5.com/

[Chewie_jrc]

Cool, it's also the not-quite-6-year-anniversary of Muslim extremists killing artists guilty of the horrific crime of exercising free speech.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/controversial-filmmaker-shot-dead-531777.html

Together....we can troll the world!

[Joel Chapman]

This weeks marks the anniversary was of the sinking of USS Liberty by the Israli air force.

This case isn't widely heard of because of the 40 year gagging order placed on the witnesses to prevent coverage and reporting on the event.

The even is speculated that this was a deliberate incident planned by both the US and Israeli forces in order to

1) scrap the USS Liberty which was nearing the end of it's useful life.
2) blame the attack on egyptians
3) garner public opinion for military intervention against egypt.

Unofortunately, the incident didn't go to plan as the whole attack was witnessed by the russians who could clearly identify both parties involved in this staged attack (even though Israeli's were a lot closer and still claim that they didn't know they were attacking an ally).

More info here: http://www.gtr5.com/

1) It happened June 8, 1967, so this week does not mark the anniversary.
2) The USS Liberty never sank. After the attack it made it to Malta under its own power, got repaired and made it back to the US.
3) 34 crew members died (31 of them sailors), not 40+ sailors.

[scuba]

LT, why do you always try and stir the shit pot?

[sergeant_81]

No worries, London. Iran will have "the bomb" before long. Bet you're on your knees several times a day praying for it, eh?

[LondonTiger]

What does iran have anything to do with USS Liberty? You clearly love Israeli enough to not care about the murder of 34 US crew members of USS Liberty at them.

Maybe you wouldn't feel that way if the crew of USS Liberty had free speech to tell their side of the story and not had a gagging order to silence them, or maybe if your base was carpet bombed by an ally, deliberately, you wouldn't feel the same way either.

[LondonTiger]

Cool, it's also the not-quite-6-year-anniversary of Muslim extremists killing artists guilty of the horrific crime of exercising free speech.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/controversial-filmmaker-shot-dead-531777.html

Together....we can troll the world!

You are comparing the act of a "democratic" government with a few rogue individuals. I don't see the paralells.

[sergeant_81]

What does iran have anything to do with USS Liberty? You clearly love Israeli enough to not care about the murder of 34 US crew members of USS Liberty at them.

Stop hiding the fact you want nothing more than Israel and every one of its citizens eliminated.

[LondonTiger]

Stop hiding the fact you want nothing more than Israel and every one of its citizens eliminated.

Nah, I just wanna fuck your mum in the ass.

Quit trolling, and bring evidence if you're going to accuse me of wanting genocide.

[Terminater135]

Nah, I just wanna fuck your mum in the ass.

Quit trolling, and bring evidence if you're going to accuse me of wanting genocide.

It's funny you tell people to stop trolling.

[gzt]

There's a difference between not liking the state of Israel, not wanting the state of Israel to exist, and not wanting the citizens of Israel to exist. The first two are not evil per se. The third one is.

[sergeant_81]

Just bringing myself down to your level, fuckface.

As far as "not caring" about the "murder" of U.S. sailors:

My mother and my father were U.S. Naval officers, and I was a U.S. Marine. 41 combined years of service among us three. Do not even attempt to discern my feelings about the deaths of U.S. servicemembers.

This incident was a tragic and unfortunate fuck-up that occurred in the middle of a war as a result of mistaken identity. Those of us who have been or are in the military understand that sometimes this shit happens. The situation was handled diplomatically by both sides - allies, I might remind you. There are those who question the official findings brought about by several courts of inquiry on both sides, as is their right.

You, on the other hand, resort to standard-issue propagandist bullshit that I, for one, have had enough of.

Finally, let it be known that my 'mum,' as you put it, could mop the floor with your skinny, pathetic, pompous little body.

[Rorschach]

Squat more, troll about Israel less.

[pwn]

they see me trollin, they hatin, moderatin, tryin to catch me postin dirty

[Chewie_jrc]

You are comparing the act of a "democratic" government with a few rogue individuals. I don't see the paralells.

The parallel is that you are a fucktard troll, and a bad one. We are calling you out on your shit. Take your rack-pulls, mustached women, and Jew hating somewhere else.

[Chewie_jrc]

What does iran have anything to do with USS Liberty? You clearly love Israeli enough to not care about the murder of 34 US crew members of USS Liberty at them.

Maybe you wouldn't feel that way if the crew of USS Liberty had free speech to tell their side of the story and not had a gagging order to silence them, or maybe if your base was carpet bombed by an ally, deliberately, you wouldn't feel the same way either.

First, if you're going to troll and try to stir the pot, use correct facts.

Secondly, don't pretend you know anything about anything you shithole. Fratricide happens in war, it's but one of the million reasons war sucks ass. This does not diminish the loss of those serivcemen but there is no reason to put it under a spotlight and spin your conspiracy theory X-files shit all over it.

[coldfire]

This weeks marks the anniversary was of the sinking of USS Liberty by the Israli air force.

This case isn't widely heard of because of the 40 year gagging order placed on the witnesses to prevent coverage and reporting on the event.

The even is speculated that this was a deliberate incident planned by both the US and Israeli forces in order to

1) scrap the USS Liberty which was nearing the end of it's useful life.
2) blame the attack on egyptians
3) garner public opinion for military intervention against egypt.

Unofortunately, the incident didn't go to plan as the whole attack was witnessed by the russians who could clearly identify both parties involved in this staged attack (even though Israeli's were a lot closer and still claim that they didn't know they were attacking an ally).

More info here: http://www.gtr5.com/

Holy shit! Your friends again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=illF1vt5g1Q

[LondonTiger]

Just bringing myself down to your level, fuckface.

As far as "not caring" about the "murder" of U.S. sailors:

My mother and my father were U.S. Naval officers, and I was a U.S. Marine. 41 combined years of service among us three. Do not even attempt to discern my feelings about the deaths of U.S. servicemembers.

This incident was a tragic and unfortunate fuck-up that occurred in the middle of a war as a result of mistaken identity. Those of us who have been or are in the military understand that sometimes this shit happens. The situation was handled diplomatically by both sides - allies, I might remind you. There are those who question the official findings brought about by several courts of inquiry on both sides, as is their right.

You, on the other hand, resort to standard-issue propagandist bullshit that I, for one, have had enough of.

Finally, let it be known that my 'mum,' as you put it, could mop the floor with your skinny, pathetic, pompous little body.

booo hooo.. poor me, pooor me. Maybe you're kids will turn out a retard like you, and join the military too, proving the retardedness in genetic.

[Terminater135]

booo hooo.. poor me, pooor me. Maybe you're kids will turn out a retard like you, and join the military too, proving the retardedness in genetic.

It's also funny you call other people retards.

[bowdirk]

The attack on the USS Liberty was no accident.

Period.

Please take the time and research the facts including pre-attack surveilence flights by Israelis etc.

Some people simply cannot believe that Israel would do such a thing, and since they can't believe it, they will simply attack the messenger. If they could see the truth in the matter, it may shatter their world-view that Israel is good...

Here is a link to Wikipedi, there are many other sites with additional detail if someone wants to inform themselves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

I find it tragic that many good, honest, patriotic Americans don't know the truth about this unprovoked attack and take the side of Israel on this issue. It is like saying Pearl Harbor was an accident.

Show more respect and honor the 34 dead and 170+ injured in the Israeli attack.

Please,
Bowdirk

[Terminater135]

The attack on the USS Liberty was no accident.

Period.

Please take the time and research the facts including pre-attack surveilence flights by Israelis etc.

Some people simply cannot believe that Israel would do such a thing, and since they can't believe it, they will simply attack the messenger. If they could see the truth in the matter, it may shatter their world-view that Israel is good...

Here is a link to Wikipedi, there are many other sites with additional detail if someone wants to inform themselves http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

I find it tragic that many good, honest, patriotic Americans don't know the truth about this unprovoked attack and take the side of Israel on this issue. It is like saying Pearl Harbor was an accident.

Show more respect and honor the 34 dead and 170+ injured in the Israeli attack.

Please,
Bowdirk

Troll 2# is in da house.

[coldfire]

booo hooo.. poor me, pooor me. Maybe you're kids will turn out a retard like you, and join the military too, proving the retardedness in genetic.

If retardation is indeed genetic, you need to get a vasectomy as soon as possible. Hurry up.

[sergeant_81]

Go ahead and blaspheme my service to this country, London. You haven't done a fucking thing for yours. Just infested it with your filthy self.

Fuck you. You have not and will not ever amount to a goddamned thing other than just another piece of anti-Semitic shit trolling internet forums. You too, bowdirk - take your propagandist 'facts' and shove them up your filthy ass.

If either of you are so passionate and committed to your cause, take yourselves up and go to the holy fucking Palestinian land, rather than sitting here spouting off like the cowards you are. They always need a few more martyrs.

[LondonTiger]

sergeant be very careful before you insult someone 4x your pay grade.

[misspelledgeoff]

What are you implying Major Hasan? And what's with the location update?

[LondonTiger]

colowayno, misspelledgeoff, coldfire, sergeant_81, chewie_jrc

make sure you're well armed get one of these

http://rlv.zcache.com/suicide_gun_postcard-p239267722977637571trdg_400.jpg

[Ryan Long]

LondonTiger,

Your use of the word retard makes me want to make the 4 hour drive to visit Hanscom Air Force Base.

Please make whatever arguement you have without using language that insults the intellectually disabled.

I don't hide behind an ambiguous screen name. Care to PM me and try to pull rank?

[JStrong]

I stopped using the term "retarded" after my coworker who has a son with downs syndrome pointed out the impropriety of it.

You know guys, trolls only get stronger unless you pretend they aren't there. Magical creatures are funny like that.

If you ignore it for long enough, it will eventually find the stormfront website and leave you alone.

My personal rule of thumb is not to trust anyone on the forum who doesn't actually have a workout log. YMMV.

[Ryan Long]

Thanks for the support JStrong. I used to use that language also bust since my daughter was born I have a different perspective, now I have to be happy with using standard profanity.


I stopped using the term "retarded" after my coworker who has a son with downs syndrome pointed out the impropriety of it.

You know guys, trolls only get stronger unless you pretend they aren't there. Magical creatures are funny like that.

If you ignore it for long enough, it will eventually find the stormfront website and leave you alone.

My personal rule of thumb is not to trust anyone on the forum who doesn't actually have a workout log. YMMV.

[pwn]

Wow these Israel threads get out of hand quickly. I'd just like to add that criticizing Israel doesn't constitute anti-semitism. Criticism is healthy.
But you're right--DONT FEED THE TROLL

[Kincain]

sergeant be very careful before you insult someone 4x your pay grade.

this is the most stupid-ass argument I have ever read. you personally appoint your representatives in parliament who in their turn appoint military personnel to carry out the job that needs to be done. they do their job because you and the society asks them to. the least you can do is to show some respect.
Underlining your discontent with arguments that state how much you earn or putting childish images up only lets us (and maybe yourself) know how infantile your point of view is.

[George Noble]

The eyewitnesses who were on the ship seem to contradict the official version of events at a few points. I'd be hesitant to call those people internet trolls.

If I remember correctly http://www.gtr5.com/ is the site run by people who were on the ship.

[JStrong]

A couple Israel threads within a couple days, and LondonTiger is also tigermax2012 (http://www.youtube.com/user/tigermax2012) on youtube, yes? With only two favorite videos, one which happens to be a Hitler and weightlifting joke?

You have a high pay grade for a 20 year old, but bad taste in threads and videos.

Now shoo!

[gzt]

I'm no fan of the state of Israel, but I think it's time to put Mr Rack Pull on ignore.

[Greg C]

I'm no fan of the state of Israel, but I think it's time to put Mr Rack Pull on ignore.

It's easier than that. Just refuse to acknowledge his idiocy. You will find you are much happier that way.

[gzt]

By putting him on ignore, I now have no other option.

[Greg C]

This is truth (of course), but I refuse to spend even that much energy on the weak-minded and ignorant sheep that seem to be wandering around.

Fortunately for the sheep, the sheepdogs guard them anyways from the wolves regardless of their ignorance.


By putting him on ignore, I now have no other option.

[LondonTiger]

The eyewitnesses who were on the ship seem to contradict the official version of events at a few points. I'd be hesitant to call those people internet trolls.

If I remember correctly http://www.gtr5.com/ is the site run by people who were on the ship.

I guess it fucks with people's paradigm's to accept that people's own governments can send them out on suicide missions and hang them out to dry.

But these things happen time and time again, let's not forget the DU from Gulf War I, which the US government still refuses to accept liability for and that thousands of war veterans still suffer from radioactive poisoning.

If the US government can't accept liability for at least it's own citizens, what hope is there for millions of Iraqi's who suffer from DU poisoning from the previous war.

[bowdirk]

The eyewitnesses who were on the ship seem to contradict the official version of events at a few points. I'd be hesitant to call those people internet trolls.

If I remember correctly http://www.gtr5.com/ is the site run by people who were on the ship.

Correct, but some people are so psychologically attached (brainwashed or religious) to Israel that they cannot even consider the attack as anything other than a 'mistake'.

To all you haters... Seriously... You believe it was a mistake because Israel says so and completely discount the first person accounts of the US Sailors who survived? Really? REALLY? think about it...

The fact is that Israel attacked a US ship and killed and wounded over 200 Sailors.

For "Larger" strategic geo-political reasons, the US and Israel pretended it was a mistake.

Grow up and face the truth...

-Bowdirk

[Rorschach]

Perhaps it is worth looking into further, and both countries have done much worse in the past so I'm willing to believe it's possible.

However, LT being a muppet has completely cooled any interest I might have had.
Never go into sales, LT.

[misspelledgeoff]

Actually every time you chime in on a thread, I immediately discount any point of view your purporting. This strategy works quite well.


Correct, but some people are so psychologically attached (brainwashed or religious) to Israel that they cannot even consider the attack as anything other than a 'mistake'.

To all you haters... Seriously... You believe it was a mistake because Israel says so and completely discount the first person accounts of the US Sailors who survived? Really? REALLY? think about it...

The fact is that Israel attacked a US ship and killed and wounded over 200 Sailors.

For "Larger" strategic geo-political reasons, the US and Israel pretended it was a mistake.

Grow up and face the truth...

-Bowdirk

[George Noble]

It is an insult to the sailors and other witnesses to discount their view just because of the political machinations of some internet posters who happen to believe the same thing as them.

[bowdirk]

Actually every time you chime in on a thread, I immediately discount any point of view your purporting. This strategy works quite well.

Yeah, that is called being willfully ignorant and is a good strategy for people who can't or won't face the truth for whatever reason.

Please, don't vote if you don't educate yourself or think...

and... have a nice day...

-bowdirk

[strengthstarter]

Wow, the Israel troll threads usually take longer to nosedive into anal sex with mom references. Good job fellas.

[MazdaMatt]

Wow, the Israel troll threads usually take longer to nosedive into anal sex with mom references. Good job fellas.

This is a positive trend. Eventually they'll wittle down to "Isreal had anal sex with your mom" and nobody will really know what to do... then they'll be gone for ever. I hope.

[LondonTiger]

Actually every time you chime in on a thread, I immediately discount any point of view your purporting. This strategy works quite well.

stop lying.. you wouldn't accept the message no matter who it was delivered from. Stop blaming others for your ignorance.

[misspelledgeoff]

You are right. I do not open my mind to blatant propoganda and bigoted thought-zealotry. When I hear it or read it, I immediately discount it. If this makes me a bigot, then so be it.


stop lying.. you wouldn't accept the message no matter who it was delivered from. Stop blaming others for your ignorance.

[LondonTiger]

whatever floats your boat.. in the case of USS Liberty I guess it doesn't

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[Oopswrongthread]

My girlfriend doesn't support me working out. I tried to convince her to work out too, but she hates lifting weights. She always tells me I drink too much milk, and eat too much meat. I'm about sick of her! Seems like most girlfriends support you guys. Lucky bastards.

[Jamie J. Skibicki]

Well played.